Lordship Lane incident

[SCSB79]

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote:

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> The Beard, you are spouting a load of crap.

>

> My daughter knows one of the boys who has been

> injured. He's a local lad, and not in a gang.

I'm afradi he is not. That's the way these sorts are. Simples.

[lilolil]

apologies...I thought it had happened on the bus...and the helicopter is back up now

[Annasfield]

On my way home from work now too. Is LL still closed?

[sweetgirl]

just got in, buses still on diversion.... must've have been serious for LL to be still closed off..

[Nero]

Ta. If anyone can post on this till about 2210 that would be a help. Thanks!

[Eliza.D]

SCSB79 Wrote:

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> Eliza.D Wrote:

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> > Surely these kids are known to their teachers

> in

> > school and the school should be feeding back to

> > parents any concerns and for that matter the

> > police.

> >

> > When children enter the secondary school system

> > the school should have a partnership with the

> > parent/parents ('every Child Matters)and should

> > insist on parent feedback.

> >

> > I can't imagine that any parent just doesn't

> care

> > what their child is doing, and hasn't worried

> that

> > they would get that knock on the door saying

> their

> > child has been involved in an 'incident'

>

>

>

> Unfortunately, I think the parents are half the

> problem.

That is part of my point. The secondary schools are less open than Primary schools. There should be a regular dialogue between school and parent and any lack of communication by the parents flagged up.

Once a child enters Secondary they should not be viewed as anything less than a child albeit an older child, but still a child.

[Annasfield]

Thanks sweetgirl.

[Mscrawthew]

Hi Nero

I just came back from walking the dog and it is still taped off :'(

Nero Wrote:

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> Are the buses being diverted still? Is LL closed?

> Am coming back from work in about an hour.

[SCSB79]

the buses are being diverted at Goose Green and going up EDR, turning right at the Rye and going up Barry Road...

[????]

mmmm...parents again........oh gawd the aspirational, nuclear 'family' is alive and well in the estates of south London. I'm sure a ticking off from ma and pa will sort this out once and for all...

[sawyerphin]

.

[lozzyloz]

Is it safe to go out yet?

*twitches curtain*

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lozzyloz Wrote:

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> Is it safe to go out yet?

>

> *twitches curtain*

No way - LL is packed with pedetrian rubberneckers and various other ghouls, you'll get crushed

[Annasfield]

Still closed Nero, just been diverted up Barry Road way.

[Foxy79]

BBC report -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8108412.stm

[summer]

Thank you for bringing it home to some of these people shieldbuilding

[Gimme]

Police still here and still all cordoned off.

Forensics have gone and all blood stains apparently cleaned up.

No sign of detectives.

11 O'Clock and all's well.

[thebeard]

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote:

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> The Beard, you are spouting a load of crap.

>

> My daughter knows one of the boys who has been

> injured. He's a local lad, and not in a gang.

I'm sorry to hear that he's a friend of daughter.

I remember when I was young the lads who were most polite to my parents and parents of friends were often the ones who were most likely to get up to the worst activities, bullying stealing or worst.

Is it possible your daughter?s friend is one of these lads?

If he was just an innocent bystander then it is awful that he has been stabbed, but I find it very hard to believe someone would be attacked if they were just minding their own business.

It will be interesting to find out what sparked the argument and the subsequent stabbing.

How is it that these men are still walking our streets carrying knives?

[cate]

The Beard, try saying that to Ben Kinsella's parents.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

You maybe right, TB.

I was in my cups last night, so please excuse the vehemence.

[Jeremy]

thebeard Wrote:

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> If he was just an innocent bystander then it is

> awful that he has been stabbed, but I find it very

> hard to believe someone would be attacked if they

> were just minding their own business.

I don't agree. Groups/gangs of kids can hassle and insult other kids who are just minding their own business - it happens all the time. Sometimes teenage boys can't help themselves, and react rather than walking away... and it escalates from there.

[Brendan]

This wine that they nicked, what vintage are we talking?

[cate]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> thebeard Wrote:

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> > If he was just an innocent bystander then it is

> > awful that he has been stabbed, but I find it

> very

> > hard to believe someone would be attacked if

> they

> > were just minding their own business.

>

> I don't agree. Groups/gangs of kids can hassle and

> insult other kids who are just minding their own

> business - it happens all the time. Sometimes

> teenage boys can't help themselves, and react

> rather than walking away... and it escalates from

> there.

That's what I meant by try telling that to Ben Kinsella's parents. But you said it better Jeremy.

[SeanMacGabhann]

Jeremy is usually the goto guy when something needs saying well

[matthew123]

thebeard Wrote:

> If he was just an innocent bystander then it is

> awful that he has been stabbed, but I find it very

> hard to believe someone would be attacked if they

> were just minding their own business.

What a ridiculous statement.