I turned 8 in 1986, and have a clear memory of sitting in the CPT with my dad and his friends as they discussed football. I must have been 7 at the time, as I clearly remember saying that Liniker would be the best player at the world cup, so it was obviously before that. No idea why I felt the need to share that, but it just popped in to my head. Bookworm Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > To be honest, I think the Ninentendo DS and PSP are worse than TV. They are really addictive and because they are portable, are taken everywhere. We've had to restrict usage on those too. Agree, I always liked computer games, but these days they are designed to be very very addictive, and the hand helds don't help. Mrs Keef's 7 year old nephew was round ours the other week, and was just blanking everyone that tried to speak to him because he was so involved in his PSP... I swear I had to leave the room or I would have taken it off him and thrown it out the window! (or just nicked it and played it myself after he'd gone). I hate playing games with kids that age too. They always chose the games that they can't do on their own, so you have to basically do everything for them, or they chose the game where you have to let them win, and they start getting all cocky... I hate myself when I am determined to give a 7 year old a severe beating (on the game!!!!!) just to wipe the smile off his smug face! I'm not sure I'm going to be a very good dad :-S