Give it a rest Quids...no one is interested. Back to on topic. I think you are right Mockney. American's limitations have once again been shown rather than strength. But they are the same limitations shown in Vietnam and Korea. There is something about the American ethic that just doesn't work. It's not for a lack of intelligent people. There are some very intelligent military advisors and indeed politicians and journalists.....but they somehow get sidelined every time American engages in unilateral conflict. Colin Powell (then Secretary of State) quit telling Bush that to go to war without a proper post war plan in place was lunacy - and Powell should know. That alone should have told Blair that America were not properly prepared. Legitimacy of war is one thing, and often that is just a point of view, but to be ill prepared is something else and that was a tragedy for Iraq in the immediate aftermath. Tony Blair has to accept some of the responsibility for that. And whether he, or we, like it or not, that will always overshadow everything else.