KalamityKel

rgutsell what's your point? :-S I mean I know I'm not the brightest sunbeam but seriously!

The Olympics are coming? ::o surely not!?!

Deliveries are currently restricted. There is an agreement with Iceland and Chesterfield Grove residents on when they can deliver which is certainly not before 8am. Through health and safety anyone assisting in helping a driver to access or exit the site must be fully trained and wear high visibility gear (this is standard anywhere) not just any ol' person (as helpful as it may be). On the off chance there is an accident no one is covered.

The deadline for comments is 26th May. The council "consideration" is in June

Incidentally... The Lufthansa Festival of Baroque Music 2012 started last night...

Renata Hamvas Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Please comment on the consultation, if you want > your opinion taken into consideration in the > planning decision process. > Renata Exactly! How many of you who are bleeting on about how wonder a M&S will or will not be have actually taken the time to LOOK at the proposed plans? It's not just about who is proposing to move in but the changes to the building - including the residential spaces above the establishment - that will have an impact on the surrounding areas. Stick to the case in hand. If you want to squabble about your shopping lists do it elsewhere! Sheesh!

So really in theory, those getting excited at the prospect of M&S or Waitrose moving in could all be for nothing? :)-D

Do we know for a fact that Iceland are indeed tending to move on or is it simply the lease is due for renewal? Apparently, according to someone who went in to speak to the manager about this (yes heresay is never 100% reliable but...), the manager was unaware of the impending move. I can never understand, although no doubt it is common practise amongst large retail establishments, that planning permission can be granted when the applicant doesn't actually hold the lease at the time the application is made.

lanuagelounger how many clients of yours are solely from the forum? are you not able to contact your clients yourself or have other avenues for advertising? Seems using a free tool like the ED you're spending too much time concerning yourself with petty issues. IMO

Administrator Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Please can we use the other Iceland thread. > > Thank you. Sorry Admin but the other thread is meant to concern the proposed application not the silly opinions (as seems to be dominating that thread) of whether a waitrose/M&S/Iceland should occupy the site and the price of fish (oooo a so diff can of worms!). Perhaps that thread should be advised to stay on topic no?

Andyng Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > sallyw Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Can we start a campaign to close Iceland and > turn > > it into m& s simply food or waitrose. It's > > ruins look of lordship lane too cheap and ugly. > > > Does not fit in with other nice shops and when > I > > walk down north cross rd I just want it gone > it's > > yuk > > This woman is a huge snob shops like iceland are > good for dulwich provides variety Iceland was installed and running a LONG time before these "nice shops" came to ED... perhaps we should get rid of them instead ans worship that is Iceland forever more :) *NB. I'm neither for or against the establishment ;-)

grabot Wrote: > > Cool story bro. So how do I go about expressing > my support for the new M & S? The same way everyone else (for and against) does: Here <--- click

It's not an issue over having M&S move in or not. Regardless the space will be used by some big retail business or other. So arguing over what's for dinner is completely pointless and off topic so, those guilty of such interference kindly remove yourselves from this thead. It's also not just about parking, again residents would be facing the situation regardless of it being an M&S or not. CPZ is NOT the answer at all! There are so many factors to be considered. Some such as: As mentioned already by decreasing the carpark area there will be difficulties with delivery vehicles. Lighting at the rear for residents of the new residential properties - I mean one would assume that lighting would be added so occupants can "see their bikes from their windows" at all times of day. Also for security additional/differently placed lighting would need to be considered. Security in general. Iceland is already known to have problems in this area - much of the area is exposed and easily accessible so would things change considerably to improve this? What would the implications be to the surrounding area (at the rear of the building). Delievery and opening times are ill thought (as mentioned already). The front design is ridiculous. ED is NOT a "town centre". ED just happens to have a high street. Such a design is completely not in keeping with the surrounding area. Agreed, it would be different from the current uninspiring frontage but seriously? Even Maccy D's wouldn't have been so bold! There is no mention of the inclusion of neighbouring streets in consultation which should have been top of the list to prevent people getting the pitch forks out and storming the streets of ED. Do they (those on the application) truly understand the local environment and will be able to anticipate and resolve problems amicably. An early demonstration of this (by the inclusion at the consulation stage) I'm sure would have gone in their favour.

gedwina Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > First Mate - The car wash has nothing to do with > the m&s and a CPZ would solve this problem. This > is a current problem as seen by threads on this > forum. > > Are the 8 spaces fully used or are they the car > park for the Iceland? Are they used by > householders? - if so this could be a problem > otherwise it will be no change to present use. > > How does the current shop get stock? Do they use > "extremely large lorries"? or very small ones?. > Currently there seems to be no issue with the > Iceland lorries and I am sure that this will be > the case with M%S. > > All I can see from the planning is the removal of > 8 spaces which is minimal. Parking will always be > a problem in East Dulwich and London as a whole. Deliveries are not arranged much before 8am with Iceland as proposed in the application - 6am deliveries! Would an agreement/arrangment be put in place for drivers to ensure their engines are switched off if they arrive earlier than planned and had to wait to gain access as is the case with Iceland? Also, Iceland lorries will not be facing the restricted space, through the considerate loss of carparking area, in which to manuever entering and exiting. Would you like to be a resident having to put up with being disturbed at all hours in the night/morning with the annoying beeps of a large vehicle reversing especially at the clever little mention (in the application) of possible night deliveries? It seems little practical thought has been considered with this particular issue within the application.

Planning Application to site of Iceland

Spare glasses It's all well and good having them "just in case" but when you need them can you find them? !!!

Changes are proposed... ETA: No not stirring up rumours. Have a read for yourselves :)

7.25am

chipped nails

"stating" what eh? *sighs*

Heels on a hard floor... We know you're there already!!!

:)-D

Razors Wrote: - > My dearest KK, you have obviously missed the > point, and that is I can't read the thread! Yes you're quite right, any thread will do eh razors! ;-)

Razors you don't need to read the thread if it doesn't interest you instead of stirring up trouble unnecessary. Pot and kettle eh? If there was a sudden explosion of threads similar to this in the many other languages of the world popped up I'm sure admin would step in if necessary. I'm also sure there are many threads in different sections of the forum you have no interest in too. If this particular thread really bothers you report it to Admin and have done with it.

apparently there was a wonderful lightning display and lots of loud rumbling late last night... I say "apparently" as I was completely dead to the world in slumber. I'm deeply upset that I missed it :(