manners and offence are intertwined I don't think many would argue with you Ridgeley, manners are important. But some people try to find offence and bad manners everywhere. I challenged the OP because I'm one of those people who spends a fair bit of my weekend pushing a buggy around. And yes, you will unquestionably encounter people on Lordship Lane who lack manners and consideration. But as a percentage? In context? It's like Narnia out there From the butchers, down to Goose Green I have a buggy and various bags, stopping off at various places to get vittles. 95% of the time not only are people friendly and polite, but they go out of their way to help. Reading the original post you would think it was a warzone out there - and it just isn't I do see some people (and I'm not implicating the OP in this) with faces like thunder who look as if they own the place, who I can see would.. discourage... friendly interaction.