So now Ryan Giggs is comparable with Andrea Dossena? I think that you are making the same mistake as you accuse others of over Rafa....bandwagon jumping. Giggs always has been, and still is, an incredibly talented player, worthy of a place in the first team of any European top flight club. He has a work ethic which Steven Gerrard would be proud of. as a servant to the club and a man to go to when you need a result he is alomst second to none. We battled away last season and we only mamaged to beat the excellent teams around us to the Premier League title, including a rampant Liverpool, because of players like Giggs.