Louisa

Lol rahrahrah. I think both M&S and Waitrose were put off by the Dog Kennel Hill Estate. Louisa.

I think all this speculation is unfounded. I wouldn't mind a punt on it staying a spoons. Louisa.

LondonMix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > However, the idea that people will > drive to M&S but won't the Morrisons doesn't make > sense as they are five minutes apart on foot. > > Same for the flats. M&S is a totally different offering to Morrisons and IMO will attract a wider audience. People will drive from relatively nearby to use this store whereas they would be less likely to do so for the Morrrisons. It's right by a supermarket for bigger food shops, no one in their right mind would drive to a small format store when a major supermarket with free parking is right next door. Completely different prospect. Louisa.

I agree LM the proposed M&S is a convenience format, but all the indications are that it will attract a wider audience for reasons outlined on the other thread. The housing developed as part of this scheme I would imagine is aimed at people without cars, seeing as it's right next to the station and by an important bus stop. And equally the Morrisons will be aimed at people using the station. I think marks picked the wrong spot on LL. Louisa.

It's only a convenience store and right next to station. It won't take business from Sainsbury's and this end of ED lacks a grab and go type place. No worries about parking. It's a completely different story to the proposed M&S. Louisa.

Hear hear first mate. You can dress up the positives of parking schemes and more rigidly monitored deliveries, but the site is simply not big enough for the proposed development it's that simple. As you rightly point out, they could easily have spread the store across two floors, but less lucrative for freeholder so that's not gonna happen, and as James Barber has hammered home a few times, Waitrose were apparently willing to take the site on as is. It's far too easy to support this application as time goes on because most people are not directly affected and by now have a certain amount of apathy to the constant dragging process. It leaves the poor residents of this road in a horrible position. Louisa.

DVL two edits and you STILL spelt both mine and Otta's screen names incorrectly. Well done. Louisa.m

I've always found Silvio Berlusconi glamorous and rather drop dead gorgeous if I'm being honest. I'd share a hot tub with him make no mistake. Louisa.

I'm torn. Nunhead still has that traditional Peckham community spirit it's always had for many many years, something that gentrification doesn't appear to have damaged just yet. It also has the best independent bakers for miles around IMO, alongside a fishmonger, greengrocer and various other good quality independent shops. The historic cemetery and telegraph hill conservation area are both on the doorstep and Peckham Rye is a short walk, so no shortage of green space either. It's also still relatively affordable, compared to ED or PR areas which are now ridiculously overpriced. However, despite all the positives, I've always been a sucker for Dulwich Village and the park, and ED is closer to all that loveliness, uniquely green and rural for inner London. We will also be getting a cinema (an expensive one at that, but that's for another thread), and the feeling is that overall ED has (I'm at pains to say this) contributed to the improvements in surrounding areas such as Peckham and Nunhead. I think as long as the two areas keep their own personalities and do not merge into an SW postcode style of generic blandness, they will both have their charms. Louisa.

Otta I have to agree. This is a fail of epic proportions and the OP appears oblivious. I think I'd have long thrown in the towel on this very poor attempt if I were DVL. Louisa.

The Peckham Plex was a former Sainsbury's superstore until 1994, so it's probably for that reason it has not been updated along with the barely break even ticket prices. Still a good business model, it brings the punters through the doors. Louisa.

I always sneak in my own sweets and popcorn. I've once rather embarrassingly had them confiscated from me at an unnamed cinema in Beckenham. Louisa.

DaveR I'm not sneering. I'm just trying to explore why this cinema has to charge more for a cultured offering? Surely arthouse movies should be within everyone's budget? Louisa.

Peckhamplex and Picturehouse will both be offering standard Hollywood stuff of that I'm sure. I'm guessing the art house stuff will also be prominent at Picturehouse, which is also good news. What I don't understand is the disparity in pricing. And I can only put this down to demographics I'm afraid to say. It isn't necessary to overinflate prices just because some of the clientele may have bugaboos and others prefer the traditional pram option (for example). What I find patronising, is the way in which said companies tailor their pricing based on who lives in an area. It's almost suggesting you have to pay more to be cultured. I can picture in my head now people queuing up with ironic glasses on for a film on a Thursday evening, not because they want to see it, but because it gives them the opportunity to be seen paying to go into a more cultured film venue. How does this make the traditional pram user (an example don't take this literally) feel when they are forced to see swathes of ironic eyewear nursing a Sauvignon outside the cafe sneering at them as they queue for a bus to Peckhaplex to watch the next Transformers instalment? Louisa.

What sort of offering do you want/expect from a cinema? I can appreciate the variety may differ, but what else do you expect? What exactly would we be paying more for? I'm confused. Louisa.

The next election is a dead heat as stands, shuffling Gove around and promoting females is opportunistic and in any normal parliament with a one party majority government wouldn't be attempted. This is not that. Cameron knows the party remains toxic to the swing voters, he couldn't even muster a small John Major majority comparable to 1992 at the last election. His options are limited. Louisa.

It's surely the principle of the matter? A new cinema chain looking to open in our area. Fine. Great. Most of us support the idea. A nice low key opening, cheap tickets for the first month or two? Then other offers further down the line BOGOF maybe? (formerly known as Orange Wednesday for example). But no, we get arty farty street fanfare plastered on the hoarding, which suggests that image is more important than substance. What we want is a decent cinema with reasonable prices surely? Louisa.

rahrahrah I'm not angry, just disappointed that's all. I can live with it, but I'm sure they could have directed resources into cheaper cinema tickets rather than something naff like this. That's my only argument. It's not always about class you know haha. Louisa.

This reshuffle is a typical end of term political reboot of the cabinet, to make the team appear fresh with adequate disconnect from the negativity of the past, but equally able to hammer home the positives in the glare of media hype. The Tories have a toxic problem associated with their team, which could mean the difference between a hung parliament or small majority after the next election. The UKIP bubble has predictably caught a slow puncture on the road to 2015 post European Elections, and Cameron assumes by tinkering with the cabinet he can at least try to disperse some of the 'white, public school educated and privileged' tag associated with the cabinet/party in general, and appear more in touch and representative over the coming months. Louisa.

SJ pardon my ignorance, but are their any other Fullers pubs close to Dulwich? I too agree it will be a struggle for anyone to utilise this space unless they offer something unique people will travel to. A boutique hotel could work, but then if the Dog is doing it, it may be too late for that option. Louisa.

Jeremy do you think they could squeeze a 10 bed boutique style hotel in the rooms upstairs? What are Fullers like for food? Louisa.

Wetherspoons food isn't amazing but I agree they don't pretend to be something they're not. And they will restore the pub aesthetically speaking at least, to it's former glory. However, I too am concerned the footfall just isn't there in this location. It really needs to be a go to destination for food or music or beer festivals etc otherwise it just won't work. The fact it's been empty so long speaks volumes, it's clear the easy route out would be residential/retail development, and the powers that be are struggling to justify any other route, and I guarantee they're trying. Louisa.

Oh don't you worry rahrahrah, what with the cafe you'll have more than enough opportunity to use that phrase. They'll no doubt be clogging the place up with bugaboos and screaming kids most daytimes. Louisa.

The street art scene is a poor attempt to get 'down with the kids'. If the kids from the council estate were involved and helping out with the project I'd have some sympathy, but judging by the pictures they're not are they? It's a very left of centre, right on thing to do- slightly embarrassing for those of us who just want a nice place to go and watch film at affordable prices. Louisa.

Maybe if they didn't spend time hiring artists for this hippy nonsense, they could invest in keeping the ticket prices low. You don't see Peckham Plex doing all this stuff and look how cheap they are. I'm not bad mouthing them for the sake of it, just wish sometimes these businesses would invest in keeping prices low for cinemagoers, because that's why most of us will be using it, not to look at college grad arty nonsense. Louisa.