Re the consultation groups ? perhaps there?s too much consultation, or at least too much consulting of the usual suspects. Folk on these groups are often self appointed, fixated on one issue and think, just because they?re being consulted, their view is sacrosanct. Much better would be random consultation, perhaps with a gift voucher incentive to give one?s views, across varied localities in any one borough. Councils need input, obviously, but not from ?professional consultees?.