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jimlad likes brutal honesty and home truths jim doesn't like young kids and isn't THAT fussed about old people living or dying jim doesn't understand escalation or exponential growth (Seemingly) - the idea that a contagion a species isn't equipped to deal with might overwhelm it just isn't part of his purview jim not keen on beggars either - I doubt many of us like the reality but most of us can muster empathy jim claims he's a "centre left remainer" and yet little in his posting history backs this up a remainer with no posts about brexit ("well I just don't think it's that important and I respect democracy. But I will fill out two pages of EDF posts about CPZ") One can only come to the conclusion, being honest and brutal, that jim is a bit of a selfish oaf, regardless of his political leanings

"From the 20th of last month menthol cigarettes are banned in the European union including us ." you say that like it's a bad thing

less hysterically https://www.theguardian.com/science/the-lay-scientist/2011/nov/18/1

" We could have far higher standards." you could do that now if you wanted - you could have done it any time in the eu But because you now require/desire a deal with USA you can not do it. Now you will be required to lower standards if you want a deal with USA

The fact that Leave is seen as a good idea by Uncle, for the reasons he states, should be enough to warn any sensible person of just how misguided it is. If you find yourself on the same side of anything as Unc why wouldn't you question it?

I live nowhere near the ED or even London bubble. My local MP is a hardcore ERG Thanks for the insight into the more presentable end of the youtube weirdness you subject yourself to I'm not alluding to anything - I'm saying for YEARS on here you have been persistently posting dog-whistle racist crap You are correct - I haven't gotten over the Brexit result because it's a folly, led my imbeciles who, even if leaving were a good idea, would still cock it up.

But that isn't answering the questions - it isn't enough to compare it flu and say "oh it's a bit like/worse" Schools aren't shut just because people think kids will die in numbers - it's to stop the spread to the wider population which has no immunity and no guarantee it will develop immunity And are you genuinely suggesting the whole rest of the world has equally overreacted? Do you never pause and think they weight of evidenve from ALL OF THE COUNTRIES is worth more than "I'm bored now can we move on?"

for the record: I have 2 primary aged kids at home every day. I would LOVE to have them back at school I can't wait for pubs and restaurants to open (my brother runs a pub and is suffering several thousand pound losses in rent alone - every single week!) I have no reason to want this to continue a day longer than it needs to

?In the last two weeks? Marvellous

"So in other words. There is only one narrative of the science and you cannot doubt or question it." I don't think that's what people are saying. But sometimes it is true that there is only one scientific answer But don't you think it meaningful that countries across the world, democratic or totalitarian, left or right, have all concluded much the same thing?

It's crazy to think that the only way people like Jim would be convinced is to let the damage happen - and if half a million people die and the country is in ruins he can always shrug and go "oh well" speaking of things that people are shrugging about and will damage Lordship Lane and beyond but happens to be self-inflicted... Brexit's-a-comin'

Just because you choose not to believe it is neither here nor there Jim This virus has hammered the entire globe. There isn't some leftie/remainer plot afoot here.

everything exdulwicher said

And still people persist with ?this country? as if it?s the only one dealing with this virus. Incredible scenes

The state of this. Jesus Regurgitating tropes from hoary youtube/Facebook/reddit/4chan wells Not a lesson learnt in 4 years

Are people still being parochial What with this we? We in Britain? Or we in the world? People honestly think the whole world has overreacted? At the beginning of lockdown many people said ?the more successful lockdown is, the more people will say it was an expensive mistake? And here we are

already here mate* https://www.fromevalleyvoice.co.uk/police-officer-left-pensioner-with-broken-jaw-after-punching-him-in-road-rage-incident * by "mate", I mean dog-whistling, unpleasant man.

That ignores in every sense the questions asked The world in in a pandemic And countries other than U.K. are handling it better with lower death rates and lower infections And those countries are using face masks either widely or by law And it is helping and not causing problems So how come?

Te44 You could answer questions already posed Other countries with better records and lower infections uses masks without any of the problems you portray How is that?

ah so now we are buying russian propoganda as well - well done, well done

"Oh well, there?s nothing to be gained going over old ground again" There is a lot to be gained by the UK by asking for an extension - and as long as people like you insist we don't need to, I will hold you responsible for what happens to us

"I?m not sure Remainers, who always emphasised perceived economic downsides, ever really understood the bigger, universal, concepts of democracy, freedom, sovereignty etc around this issue." We do You don't You had sovereignty Ireland has sovereignty ireland will continue to be sovereign Beacause Uk will now be in a weaker negotiating position it will lose sovereignty as it will have to voluntarily give up control (over animal standards for example) to other countries The EU isn't a foreign body. It is a legal framework encompassing multiple sovereign countries. The countries use their sovereignty to collectively agree to the mutual benefit of all. There will be trade offs sometimes. But it isn't a foreign body. The use the Single Market (a BRITISH INVENTION) to facilitate trade But Britain is walking away from this with people like you screaming about FORRIN ROOLS

The ability of this country to contemplae it's own navel and ignore the rest of the world never fails to surprise me Let's break it down Are other countries dealing with this virus much better with far lower infection rates and fatalities? Yes Are masks being used in these countries? Yes Can people still breathe even when wearing these masks? Yes Everything else is just waffle

I usually do an annual trip with the kids to Ireland so their granparents (who can't travel anyway) get to see them - but not sure about that this year

I'm not saying that keano I'm saying pretty much EVERYONE will be unhappy all the remainers, all the people who want an extension now (including many leavers)and most of the leavers who wanted Not This Brexit But Their Version Of Breit