Spartacus

I've never actually seen a live one. James Barber once walked past after he lost his seat but a live elected one, never Maybe they are like chatbots programmed with a limited number of council authorised answers and if challenged they default to "speak to my supervisor" mode (who also doesn't exist) 🙊

se22cat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You could also slip in a white dog turd if you > find one of the legendary beasts that can still be > spotted around ED now and again :) Tripe That's what causes them 😅

The sour milk element doesn't work as they smell it as soon as its open. The hidden surprise is better, especially if they are drinking it on the way to work 😱.

When I was younger and everyone had milk, one trick was to grab the milk as soon as it arrives,carefully take the top off without damaging it then put out an empty bottle filled with milk and a few dog ends. (If you smoked) or something else equally horrible but small enough to hide in the milk which then drops out into their tea / krispies and put the too back on carefully. The thief gets a nasty surprise and tends not to come back to the same address tons steal from.

Foxy , with all your medical conditions I would have thought you would be the last person to question pubs staying open over stopping the virus taking hold again. It is sad that pubs may need to close again if numbers go up but then again as the Great British public have almost forgotten about social distancing thinking the numbers are so low that it's safe out, then we only have each other to blame for any new increase in cases and any reversals of measures. Best way to keep pubs open is wear a mask when outside of your own home, don't get too close to others outside your immediate group, keep washing your hands and isolate & get tested if you feel ill. If we all do these simple things hopefully the uplift in cases will turn back down again. The power to keep pubs open (and other businesses) is totally in our own hands.

Wasn't yesterday "Love Parks" day ? Maybe it was all related to that event 😎

Clutter queen please post the link to the regulations on southwarks website to back up your statement as they don't have the legislative powers to ban bonfires.

Yes you can https://www.gov.uk/smoke-control-area-rules As long as it doesn't produce dark smoke (I.E. if burning plastics) And as for bonfire being illegal , southwarks web site says you can report them if they are smoky but in general they aren't illegal unless causing a smoke nuisance (burning dry wood is fine , wet wood not) They can not act on reports of the smell of a fire as smell is not part of the legislation. It's an urban myth that southwark have banned bonfires as they don't have the authority to make that a regulation ..

Pot Roasted Cockerel https://www.houseandgarden.co.uk/recipe/pot-roasted-cockerel

Edcam the deaths are not the question, it's the number of new infections and how many people each infected person passes the infection onto. Death comparison at this stage is like comparing elephants to apples as Spain's infection rate is increasing whilst ours (despite a few small pockets) is falling and death from covid occurs a period of time after infection not immediately on contraction. Do you really want to see the air bridge reopened possibly bringing a second wave to our shores with potential to mutate and get even more deadly? Is it that your dislike of the government is so strong that you would want to see more deaths here just as long as it gets a vote of no confidence in the Tory's ? I'm struggling to understand your logic. I really don't think even you are that callous unless of course you are directly affected by the effective closure of Spain to UK tourists, in which case my sympathy is with you for the loss of your holiday which is 1000 times better than the loss of your life

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I see there are a few here who have fallen for the > con. What's the nature of this con ? I'm confused or are you a conspiracy theory loo loo who thinks covid was made up 😱

Also deaths tend to lag weeks or months behind increases in infection rates, which is what is happening in Spain. Therefore your inaccurate comparison between deaths (which was lower last week than the number you are quoting) and new infections is not really a comparison. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ shows 258 deaths due to covid between 22nd and 27th July.

With Covid 19 on the rise in Spain, whilst it's not welcome news for anyone booked to go to or currently in Spain, I am finding today's headlines a bit strange including "Holiday Chaos" and "Millions of Summer Holidays ruined" I believe the advice when air corridors were introduced was that travel was at your own risk and the measures could change at short notice. The headlines however don't seem to take into account that there is still a pandemic out there and the change in travel advice has been introduced to hopefully avoid a second wave occurring in the UK. It's almost as if the media have forgotten all those that caught Covid and the pain and suffering families went through and are just focusing on sensational headlines to stir anger and panic.

300 conductors on the new routemasters were terminated in 2016 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36764417 They were employed to run the new fleet and more were supposed to be rolled out as more routemasters were introduced. Fact checked and proven PeckhamPam

This, whilst from Surrey, may help https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/law-cockerel-noise-complaints-what-14067921

Now if only we had bus conductors, that would help cut down fare evasion ... Oh hang on, something else the current mayor got rid off 😱

Eat it

pk Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Spartacus Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > pk Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > If you?re not aware of the situation > inherited > > why > > > are you so quick to allocate blame? > > > > > > As I said, provide proof before defending your > > position but the link below is from the current > > mayors first year in office > > > http://content.tfl.gov.uk/tfl-annual-report-and-st > > > atement-of-accounts-2016-17.pdf > > > > I'm no accountant but the finances are shown > from > > page 104 onwards so if someone can work it out > > then good luck although at the time it showed > cash > > in the bank 🤐 > > So in short, you?ve said it?s obviously this > mayor?s fault > > But actually you haven?t a clue Interesting debating style PK You asked for evidence of TfLs finances and I provided their accounts from 2016/17 so that a conclusion could be drawn if the previous mayor left them up s41t creek with out a paddle (as I said I'm not an accountant but from what I read he didn't) As a result you try to debunk my views without providing any evidence to the contrary. But to answer your point, yes in my personal opinion the current mayor has failed to deliver on a number of areas under his remit (not just TfL) and if London was a private company he would have been removed from power by now and replaced. But that's just my view and others have different views. Jules I agree the accounts are out if date but as pointed out above they were there to show where this mayor was a year into his role. I would be interested to see the prediction document showing an operational surplus in 2 years as it was recognised a couple of years ago that revenue from fares were falling yet TfLs predictions were working on income from fares remaining the same at the time. I have also seen that the prediction for fares from the new crossrail line seemed to magically reverse this trend. As always a prediction is only proved right in hindsight which means with creative accounting one could predict anything but until a surplus is actually delivered, it's just that "a prediction" and in the case of crossrail the predicted passenger numbers are in my opinion very questionable. The document below shows (as well as concerns about TfLs financial position and recommendations) how much revenue the Elizabeth line was expected to raise, but with the delays the predicted surplus may well also be delayed. https://www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/tfl_finances_-_final.pdf

pk Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If you?re not aware of the situation inherited why > are you so quick to allocate blame? As I said, provide proof before defending your position but the link below is from the current mayors first year in office http://content.tfl.gov.uk/tfl-annual-report-and-statement-of-accounts-2016-17.pdf I'm no accountant but the finances are shown from page 104 onwards so if someone can work it out then good luck although at the time it showed cash in the bank 🤐

The government support has been reduced agreed, but it was approximately the same amount per year as the fares freeze cost, and as a result the Mayor put more funding into tfl. If he hadn't frozen fares then the phased reduction in government grant wouldn't have made a difference. Prior to covid 19 hitting travel tfl were already in debt due to fares freeze, falling passenger numbers and other factors that the mayor should have addressed. I would like to see your evidence that the current mayor didn't get a balanced set of books. I'm not aware that he did or didn't but as you have raised the question can you provide evidence?

Let's mix it up and have RuPaul present it !

Jules-and-Boo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Despite this, TFL were on track to run a surplus > AND deliver key projects. > > It now looks like the mayor is screwing London but > it's actually the government. How is a ?13 billion debt "on track to run a surplus" ? For context this article was the 12th May, only a month and a half into the reduction in passenger numbers so when the mayor got his bailout it was possibly higher. BBC News - Coronavirus: Transport for London expects to lose ?4bn https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52630386 It's obvious that the Mayor's policies in this area have failed but remember to TFL and the Mayor of London every bailout is important.

thebestnameshavegone Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Car ownership declines massively post 50/60 in > London (TFL'S own data) > > These sound like Schodinger's old people -a > demographic who are in a small minority being > wheeled out to make convenient points. Funny Post 50 people seem to be able to afford to buy the e-type / classic they desire when they were younger so potentially car ownership over 50 goes up Post 70 and maybe due to poor eyesight and other health issues ownership goes down in my experience

It was imposed by the government only in response to poor financial management by the mayor. Bit like any rescue deal , terms and conditions apply.