Robert Poste's Child

Of course, that applies equally to everyone else's right to express a viewpoint and to disagree, debate, be convinced or just agree to disagree!

I'm sorry to see Louisa go. Although others - including me at times - may not agree with her views, I admire her outspokenness and the fact she's always true to herself and pretty consistent in what she says. Rare qualities in this forum and the country these days. Younger forumites may not know that these are qualities that used to be recognised as essentially British, but these days most of us seem to have become too soft to be able to listen to anything we find uncomfortable - again, me included. In other words: 'I disagree with what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it.'

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What are UK values? In this age of Brexit I just > see a whole lot selfishness and idiocy. I've no idea either but I believe they're in the citizenship test. Queuing must be in there, and saying yes, thank you, the food's lovely, when the waiter asks then complaining about it all night.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have Never seen Louisa say anything that would > deem to be offensive. On this point I can't agree! I'm assuming you don't identify as middle class or a blow-in... > The drop in > posting on EDF (and there has been a Great > reduction) Has there? Isn't it just the Lounge? The other sections seem as busy as ever. ETA: Hilarious! I had no idea that the forum converts the term Louisa used to use for incomers into that. See Louisa, you can't go - you have your own expletive!

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Robert Poste's Child Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I picked you up on it because it was relevant > to > > the point under discussion - women's perception > of > > how we are spoken about and to. > > And fair enough if you see it like that, to me, in > the context of a discussion group on the internet > (rather than me leaning across you in the pub and > not allowing you to speak or similar) it seems a > pretty hair-trigger reaction. In a more general context you would (dare I say 'do'...) get away with it but when you choose to do it in the context of a pretty fundamental feminist question you should expect a reaction!

Glad you've learned the error of your ways, RH. Flockerspotter, have you ever said anything kind or supportive on this forum? I only ever seem to see digs which looks like you're trying to stir things up. Maybe I'm wrong.

I picked you up on it because it was relevant to the point under discussion - women's perception of how we are spoken about and to.

I don't see any outrageous comments from you, in fact I agree with what you said. How strange. Maybe whoever was on Admin duty at the time was under 30 as the thread seems to be biased towards younger people rather than being inclusive.

I didn't notice anything. Which thread was it?

I just loved, loved, loved this news story. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5777403/Paris-hero-climbs-four-storey-apartment-block-rescue-boy.html It made me wonder, does the UK have a fast track for migrants who demonstrate outstanding citizenship, courage, loyalty or otherwise exemplify UK values - so not just the wealthy or those who have a job lined up? I think it would be a fantastic way to reward people who deserve it, model good citizenship and create new role models. What does anyone else think? It's got 'Harry & Meghan' written all over it.

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > civilservant Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > as for 'mansplaining', all the women i know > find > > it such a useful word, it helps them be clear > > about the behaviour they're objecting to - and > > believe me, there are mansplainers lurking > > everywhere out there > > But I still want to know how I'm apparently a > "mansplainer" when I was explaining something to > another man? RH, the post you replied to quoted me (a woman) and asked for more information about something relating to women's experience (in this case, being called a lady). 'Mansplaining' means a man explaining what a woman means or experiences rather than treating her as an equal who can speak for herself. Does that help?

I didn't suggest instead of! If you read what I actually wrote, I'm suggesting a growing source of air pollution that also needs looking at if the Govt is serious about tackling the problem. I really feel for all the people (I'm one) who have breathing difficulties and can't have their windows open or sit in their garden in this weather, or even dry their washing outside, just because people around them are having barbecues.

When you cycle in this weather you can't fail to notice the effect that barbecues (and fire pits etc) add to this, as do open fires and woodburning stoves in winter. If the Mayor or Government were genuinely committed to improving air quality it would be a simple (of course I'm not suggesting popular) matter to ban them in urban areas.

This sounds like a safeguarding issue. The law says that safeguarding children and vulnerable adults is everyone's responsibility so you should go ahead and voice your concerns to any or all of the people you listed, plus the person's family (if that's not you). If you've already tried them and been rebuffed, you could try another healthcare professional. The local authority must investigate safeguarding concerns. That said, it sounds like the social worker has decided the person has mental capacity so there may not be much you can do. Best of luck with what sounds like a worrying situation for you.

Now have a go at 'mansplaining', RH!

Good point! Reads like the decision has already been made and this is more to gauge the level of staffing patients will accept.

Personally I think William Rose is great and some of their basics are very good value, better quality than the biggest local supermarket but a comparable cost. That said, they've been doing what they do for a while and another gourmet butcher in the area will probably inspire them to greater heights. Bring on the meat war!

Thanks for sharing that, ianr. I didn't know that and it's a powerful argument against the school run, which is such a big part of rush hour traffic volume (towards DV at at rate there's not much of a rush hour outside termtime). Unfortunately most people still see cars as status symbols, which makes you wonder what kind of campaign would help wean them off.

The one on Ched Evans, the footballer, got rather intense.

Similar thing with Brockwell Park, much of which is now disappearing behind a board wall high enough to block sun and views for people wanting to use the part that's left. I'm not sure if this is for one event or many, but I assume the three-day festival weekend after next. I assume the ever-growing number of events is due to councils looking for revenue. All very nice for incoming visitors but local residents are going to have a tough time with noise, cooking smoke, litter and drunk behaviour. This is what summer's like around here now.

Both volume and aggression levels seem higher. Perhaps it's inevitable given we now have more schools and school places, as well as new flats and housing developments bringing more people into the area. My own road is rammed morning and evening with drivers dropping off or picking up kids, as well as teachers parking all day. Bring on the CPZ. I'm not convinced the new DV junction is helping. It's not just parents as van drivers seem to be taking it personally too. Hope it's sorted out before building work starts on the old Audi site as that's really not going to help. I'm so ready to move somewhere else, to be honest.

It was probably picking up bits of food left from the recent fair and people having picnics. If people picked up after themselves there wouldn't be such easy pickings for rats and foxes.

Spotted Zebedee Tring in the main section.

Cycling from near ED station to home, close to DV central, at least five drivers forced me to a loud, brake-screaming emergency stop to avoid being hit as they overtook with inches to spare, or pulled in and braked, or failed to stop turning across my path from the oncoming side or (congratulations, you're the winner!) having parked on the opposite side of the road from their direction of travel, pulled out of it in front of me while I was cycling downhill. Doesn't matter how much you pull the 'charming mummy' smile, love, I still don't have power-assisted braking. I've also noticed that every morning and afternoon the DV junction is a chorus of car horns. Presumably they're venting frustration with the new junction. Idiots.

That sounds nice, Sue. Whereabouts did you go? That reminds me I need to find a new group or partner for walking.