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What do you think they are denying exactly? Is there allowed to be a debate or is anyone who disagrees just a "denier"? What if vaccination doesn't work or not well? Given we only have trials that were 30% or so finished telling us they will? If SARS-CoV-2 stays around in a similar way to Influenza evolving around anything we do, and there is little we can do about it, should we just lock down indefinitely? What are dangerous points of view? Just things you don't agree with? If they're dangerous cite evidence of why they are dangerous? I see this as a general problem in the 21st century, social and our online media has lead to their only being one "truth", no debate with actual evidence is allowed.

Makes sense for big stores, what about little ones like Barry road in the OP, can't expect them to employ bouncers due to the cost surely? Blah Blah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > mrwb Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Can't expect store staff to take customers on > and > > force them to wear a mask. They can ask them, > what > > if they say "no"? > > Shops can refuse entry to a person without a mask. > Several big chains (who tend to have security > staff on their doors, have now said they will be > doing that.

Call the police? Can't expect store staff to take customers on and force them to wear a mask. They can ask them, what if they say "no"? Then you realise the police have been cut to the bone and our local police station closed.

It would be more refreshing if our post was actually delivered!

Best idea so far I think. We'll also need a new police station as economic problems bite over the next couple of years. Lynne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I know what, they could turn it into a postal > sorting office

Guess the other thread got deleted as Partisan? What other ideas do people have for the constitutional club? Residential?

I also received Christmas cards in the last couple of days. Totally laughably awful service. Clearly privatisation and closing our local sorting office has been a total disaster. To be expected these days I guess.

Does appear dogs should only be allowed off the lead on the perimeter: "dog walking area - dogs may be walked off the lead on the perimeter path around the park" https://www.southwark.gov.uk/parks-and-open-spaces/parks/dulwich-park

Go film all the closed places and deserted central London, the City and Canary Wharf. as a historical record of what happened.

Could this be because it was the highest back in March ? Burnout for now.

Dulwich audi premises ? Seems in line with the UKs general economic strategy. Selling coffee to each other and endless mortgage lending fuelled house price rises. Probably not good news for the 3 or 4 similar places in and around Dulwich village. 2 coffee places on the same block iirc ?

We are go on this I think? Signs have been uncovered on Townley road, 8-10am and 3-6pm it's a no go area for cars.

Hope it's not a charade of some kind. Guess we'll see.

Townley road is being blocked as well? During select hours, morning and afternoon starting on the 17th? Prepare for gridlock ?

The money for the roads would come from normal council tax if they didn't have the money from fines. So the council could offset it and reduce council tax... We all know that won't be happening though. All the cash will go to support salaries of the Tooley st fatcats on 6 figures ? Law should be changed so they have to use fines to reduce it. Especially for poorer residents. Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ah but it doesn?t reduce your council tax....it > can only be reinvested in road infrastructure! ;-)

Presumably the idea is to "re-educate" the parents from Alleyns who use Townley road when dropping kids ? With a secondary objective of income from all the PCNs, guessing council finances are in dire straits due to Covid ?

Total nightmare around Townley road this morning! My feeling is our learned council will go the same way as our appalling national government within 12 months. Hordes of the angry unemployed masses going to do for them.

They've always been around Peckham rye park. One of natures great survivors and very hard to get rid of. They learn to recognise poisons put down and breed too fast. Also true bread meant for the ducks ends up being eaten by the rats!

Do you think it could be because getting wet and cold weakens you immune system? Also colder temperatures are ideal for virus replication. Flu, cold and Covid season will be getting going this week I would imagine? A cold is called a cold for reason, long before people understood microbiology they were able to correlate the two things together. All those people queuing outside the schools will be a perfect viral breading ground as well. Mad. SE22_2020er Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > @rockets - I'm sure people don't like walking and > cycling in the rain. i don't like it either - but > i do it, because i've finally worked out its the > right thing to do. is it more important that i > get to do what i like than choking childrens lungs > up with exhaust fumes. > > don't blame the council - blame the selfish > b**tards in their cars. > > now i'm really grumpy :-)

This crisis would have crippled TFL no matter how it was run. The fact it was already a totally inefficient shambles has made things worse. Maybe as it gets cut to the bone over the next few years, a better TFL will ultimately emerge. We can hope anyway.

Yup, pure cash grab... Pot to grab is only going to shrink more though. TFL bust and relying on central government bailouts for the foreseeable future I think? KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "won't someone think of the revenues ?"

Not for much longer, London going to depopulate (again, we only just passed the 1939 peak in 2015) quite significantly. Catalyst is covid 19, was already happening before that. Could see it from TFL numbers. Crime, unemployment and associated economic crisis what we need to deal with. Car usage will naturally decline as people leave. Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > London congestion and pollution is not a road > supply problem. The only solution is to reduce the > usage of cars. There are too many of us living in > London and too many people who want to drive for > it to be any other way.

What has happened was totally obvious. Total gridlock around going to work and school time. Standing traffic all over the place, more pollution than before. Hard to decide if local or central government are more incompetent at the moment ? They're both so awful it's pretty hard to decide... Luckily I was walking today. I also noticed children queuing outside bessemer grange primary this morning. Surely they can't be planning to do that all winter in snow and rain? Is ok in warm weather like today, if you want kids to get sick that is sure way of achieving it!

Thanks for that, very helpful answer!

What will be peak closure times on Townley road and when do they start ?