Moflo You have my support but does that mean that you are justified in hanging on to working practices that are being tightened up? These are not normal financial times, the shit has hit the fan and flexible has to be the response to getting squeezed. As a self employed person my income has been cut by 50% in the last 12 months, no pension, no union, no boss to blame just half pay. It is true that your job is more important than mine but does that mean your response to the economic meltdown should differ from the way others are responding? The Suburban Pirate-taking moderation to the extreme