The shops in Nunhead are going to the wall

[macroban]

> Nunhead lane needs it's regeneration money now you bleedin southwark town hall social clubbers - the shops are going to the wall and your not even trying to help them out .............

Which shops?

[Administrator]

Moved to the Lounge as it's not about East Dulwich

[PeckhamRose]

Which shops?

I shop there regularly.

I believe a new cafe has applied to open next to the lovely AJ FLowers.

I go to most of the shops there quite regularly and know the people to talk to.

And if you are SO whingy about it, why bang on to councillors in HERE where they are not reading it, and come along to the Community COuncil meeting TONIGHT Wed 19th December and say something out loud and sensible where they can hear you?

The latest issue of Nunhead Voice talked about the money earmarked for the area too.

[PeckhamRose]

So d it. I could not go, I am sick wiv the lurgy.

[AllforNun]

Whingy ? don't be daft, they have been promised money since 2001 - where is it ?

Read the Nunhead Voice and you will see from the letter from the shop owners themselves that it has been a Shite year in the lane, 3shops have closed one that has been there for over 20 years and 7 shops in the last 2 years , we currently have 4 vacant, 3 for over 8months. Investors are offering a lot of money to turn them into buy to let flats and no one from the liberals gives a flying..... they would not care if the small lane vanished into a row of cheap rent flats or illegally rented upstairs rooms and emtpy nail bars below.

As for the community council it's defunct and toothless with regrard to a regeneration plan, and the liberal Council regeneration tszar Richard "where's Nunhead?" Thomas is .........

As the rents explode in ED they should think about offering an alternative cheaper rental opportunity to create a focus for other types of new business ventures - there are examples all over London. Aberville road in Clapham, Exmouth market islington, Columbia Road in hackney, Broadway market in London Fields...etc etc

Do some research and come back with eyes open.....

[Michael Palaeologus]

Its because Mum's Love to Shop in Iceland - which is in East Dulwich.

Anyway, Nunhead is full of dead people, as a very few august members of this Forum evidence on a regular basis.

[dulwichmum]

OHMYGOD! Is that really true? Do dead people from Nunhead post on this forum? Why this forum is better than getting SkyTV!

[AllforNun]

Yes we tried to persuade Iceland to relocate but they felt we were just to savy over here. They were also worried about their freezers getting used as a morgue !

[Michael Palaeologus]

Nunhead has long been known for the practice of parents eating their own children in times of economic need. Given the down turn in the retail sector in Nunhead we could see smaller class sizes in that area in the not too distant future.

[AllforNun]

er not really a downturn more of the councils neglect of a area with great potential due to it's obsession with the fence in Goose Green and the fact taht Nunhead does not have any Lib Dem councillors.

[lozzyloz]

Potential for what exactly?

[Michael Palaeologus]

An expansion of the Cemetary?

[AllforNun]

mm small village like parade of shops centered on a small green surrounded by some nice old pubs - see transformation of The Old Nuns Head - I don't know what potential do you think ? do you get out at all ?

[*Bob*]

AllforNun Wrote:

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> mm small village like parade of shops centered on

> a small green surrounded by some nice old pubs -

It sounds divine. Where did you say this was again?

[Michael Palaeologus]

.... or bunch of scruffy (and evidently unsuccessfull) shops surrounding a balding "green" with a pub regenerated by the money of ED residents. Thats about it.

[AllforNun]

Your money is regenerating what exactly ? - I doubt it. Don't we all pay the same Council Tax ?

[Maurice]

Again I just don't believe in our current 'if you build it they will come' approach to regeneration. Lordship Lane is an excellent example. They came because demand was high, not because we poured in millions building a lovely parade of empty shops.

Peckham remains an excellent example. Bellendon a close second. A new coat of paint covers the cracks only for a limited amount of time.

[TillieTrotter]

I used to go to the Pie n Mash shop there which was fab but that seems about the only thing worth while. Oooh and the fish shop is great.

[PeckhamRose]

But your point about whining to THIS forum would be???

Aim your whining at those that can do something.

This is East Dulwich Forum.

I agree the Community Councils are toothless, and my recent application to be a member of the Standards Committee of the council refers to that point as a reason why I want to try and make things better in that area.

I have forwarded this link to Cllr Robert Smeath.

AllforNun Wrote:

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> Whingy ? don't be daft, they have been promised

> money since 2001 - where is it ?

>

> Read the Nunhead Voice and you will see from the

> letter from the shop owners themselves that it has

> been a Shite year in the lane, 3shops have closed

> one that has been there for over 20 years and 7

> shops in the last 2 years , we currently have 4

> vacant, 3 for over 8months. Investors are offering

> a lot of money to turn them into buy to let flats

> and no one from the liberals gives a flying.....

> they would not care if the small lane vanished

> into a row of cheap rent flats or illegally rented

> upstairs rooms and emtpy nail bars below.

>

> As for the community council it's defunct and

> toothless with regrard to a regeneration plan, and

> the liberal Council regeneration tszar Richard

> "where's Nunhead?" Thomas is .........

>

> As the rents explode in ED they should think about

> offering an alternative cheaper rental opportunity

> to create a focus for other types of new business

> ventures - there are examples all over London.

> Aberville road in Clapham, Exmouth market

> islington, Columbia Road in hackney, Broadway

> market in London Fields...etc etc

>

> Do some research and come back with eyes open.....

[Michael Palaeologus]

Absolutely, we dont all pay the same council tax, ED property is worth more and so we pay more. There is no point in opening pointless shops when there is no demand for their goods. The Nuns Head does a great Sunday lunch which attracts us EDers. Perhaps if the denizens of Nunhead were to lay on some traditional entertainment on the Nunhead village green we might throw a few pennies their way.

Witch burning, crone ducking, that sort of thing.

Its the private sector that regenerates areas, standing there with your hands out waiting for Soutwark grant aid is all a bit Oliver Twist.

[Mark]

hey AllforNun, what action have you taken to help the area? And what further action do you intend to take to help the area?

[*Bob*]

Let's have a whipround. Put me down for a tenner.

[AllforNun]

Sorry but we are intertwined with ED so you are just going to have to get over it - I think the councillor in charge of the so called (joke) regeneration is an ED coucillor and lives in ED. I know that some people think ED should have some Chinese type interent wall built up around it but it ain't going to happen - or actually it may and would be a sad indictment indeed.

[PeckhamRose]

Answer Mark's question, AllForNun.

We all only have each other.

I always try and do my shopping in Nunhead and I always try and attend CCs and encourage others to do so.

If more people did, things would have to improve because as a community we would not let our elected leaders rest until they did.

But

at the moment in society the whingers and whiners are winning, and whining.

I think it has something to do with not enough people suffering enough together.

Revolutions happen when enough people suffer enough together and are united in the suffering.

Basically, we get the leaders and the society we deserve.

Mark Wrote:

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> hey AllforNun, what action have you taken to help

> the area? And what further action do you intend to

> take to help the area?

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