Revised new - M&S planning application to replace Iceland..

[Jeremy]

I'd say that the reputation for dodgy tactics, along with the tacky offices and cars (do they still have those?) are the main reason. But yes, their office is inexplicably large.

[robbin]

I think people have seen the television documentaries exposing past (alleged) dodgy practices at other Foxtons' offices.

[maxxi]

One benefit if Waitrose move here (not a particular fan of their gear) is it might reduce the number of Ocado vans - pesky little critters.

[MissKing]

M&S would be better than Waitrose. But if we had a Waitrose, would we be able to order John Lewis 'click and collect' orders to it? If so, I would like both!!!

I would be sad to see Iceland go however, it is useful for frozen fish and picking up cheap veg late on a Sunday afternoon if Coop is closed. But I would much rather have an M&S.

[Katy Tonbridge]

I seem to be in a minority of one in that I actually quite like the Co-op, both the ambience of the shop and the fact it has a decent range of the essentials on those days when I don't want to do battle in Sainsbury's.

[Jeremy]

MissKing Wrote:

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> But if we had a Waitrose, would we be able to order John Lewis

> 'click and collect' orders to it?

Yes it would definitely have John Lewis order collection. It would also have a toilet paper rental service, and a chorus of singing cats.

[bil]

John Lewis collections are available from 'Little waitrose' branches as well.

[dimples]

Def keep Iceland and replace co op with waitrose or m&s

[Jennys]

Katy Tonbridge Wrote:

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> I seem to be in a minority of one in that I

> actually quite like the Co-op, both the ambience

> of the shop and the fact it has a decent range of

> the essentials on those days when I don't want to

> do battle in Sainsbury's.

I also like the Co-op. I think the food on the whole is very good. There is a pretty good range of staple items, their bakery bread is delicious and many of the ready meals are very tasty. I can walk there instead of driving to Sainsbury's.

[pebs]

I really cannot understand why so many people are in favour of an M&S (all 62 pages....). We have one of the nicest high streets with independent shops. Why support a store that will be competing against them, to thier detriment?

[fazer71]

pebs Wrote:

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> I really cannot understand why so many people are

> in favour of an M&S (all 62 pages....). We have

> one of the nicest high streets with independent

> shops. Why support a store that will be competing

> against them, to thier detriment?

Agreed and M&S food is plastic wrapped plastic, totally overpriced garbage.

[jaih1]

oh LondonMix, who knew such an innocent question of 23 April could reignite such passions which have been quietly hibernating over the winter months.......

I vote for keeping Brissi in the old East Dulwich Deli (have developed a cushion and soft lighting addiction), opening a Prada (spring collection of shoes, hats, handbags and trans-seasonal trousers) in lieu of John Barnett and a Prawn-Mayo-on-Brown-Bread-with-corners-cut-off Sandwich Shop in the old "Golden City" on Whateley Road

On your marks.....

[DulwichFox]

Now been discussed in this thread for close on 3 years (May 2012) and still hasn't happened.

Iceland Lives on.

DulwichFox

[vanessa520]

Just heard from one of the lovely ladies in Icelands that they have had there closing date of 29th June.

Let's just hope there enough vacancies in other stores so they can keep their jobs.

[LondonMix]

M&S is replacing Iceland. They are both large chains selling food so your point makes no sense.

In the end, people who are supportive of M&S opening probably want to buy the goods M&S sells...

Small business owners on Lordship Lane have come on in support of the application as they think it will be good for the retail footfall of the high street.

pebs Wrote:

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> I really cannot understand why so many people are

> in favour of an M&S (all 62 pages....). We have

> one of the nicest high streets with independent

> shops. Why support a store that will be competing

> against them, to thier detriment?

[first mate]

Is there further news on the penthouse/adding another level application?

[natty01295]

M&S food is much more expensive so there won't be many customers in lordship lane store,

Iceland is better value for your money its always fresh as well, so what do you think about it closing ??

[edcam]

You think? I reckon it will do a roaring trade.

natty01295 Wrote:

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> M&S food is much more expensive so there won't be

> many customers in lordship lane store,

> Iceland is better value for your money its always

> fresh as well, so what do you think about it

> closing ??

[LondonMix]

I think M&S believe that they will have enough costumers to pay the rent the landlord is proposing and still make a profit that rewards the business risk / investment they are making. I believe Iceland do not believe they have enough costumers to pay the rent the landlord is proposing and still make a profit they find acceptable. I believe if M&S are wrong, they will close down and another chain supermarket will take over the space.

[LondonMix]

I think James said they were calling the application in.

James do you have a date when this application will be heard?

first mate Wrote:

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> Is there further news on the penthouse/adding

> another level application?

[Mick Mac]

LondonMix Wrote:

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> I think M&S believe that they will have enough

> costumers to pay the rent the landlord is

> proposing and still make a profit that rewards the

> business risk / investment they are making. I

> believe Iceland do not believe they have enough

> costumers to pay the rent the landlord is

> proposing and still make a profit they find

> acceptable. I believe if M&S are wrong, they will

> close down and another chain supermarket will take

> over the space.

They won't be wrong - ED'ers love overpriced stuff - it will be a great success.

[natty01295]

Why is it so Overpriced ?

I won't be shopping there regularly, because its too expensive and Overpriced,

Its a shame its closing,

I think they should use same staff to run the store

Q;What do you think ?

[Callie]

Mick Mac Wrote:

> They won't be wrong - ED'ers love overpriced stuff

> - it will be a great success.

Um really? It's a myth & quite the opposite I think. Very few ED twits like overpriced stuff lol. I certainly don't. I do love a good bargain though. ps I'm from ED but not a twit :0)

[Callie]

natty01295 Wrote:

> I think they should use same staff to run the

> store

> Q;What do you think ?

No, I don't think they should use the same staff, as much as I do like most of the staff that work on the tills at the mo, the management is awful, a nightmare.

[yeknomyeknom]

I like Iceland and M&S and wish we could have both. However, cheap does not necessarily mean good value. Expensive does not necessarily mean overpriced. Much of M&S product is expensive because it is sourced in a superior way to Iceland (origin, quality, sustainability, organic, environmentally considerate etc). If these things are important to you, and you have the money to pay for it, then M&S can be expensive but not overpriced. Likewise, Iceland can be cheap because it makes compromises on these things. Which is fine if cost is your most important consideration. Different strokes for different folks.

As for staffing, in all likelihood, M&S will want to provide the best staff possible to ensure customer happiness and consequently their success. The usual process would be to advertise the roles and allow existing Iceland staff to apply. Then interview all candidates and select the best people for the job. This may well be the existing staff if they are good.

I intend to travel to Peckham for Iceland and get stuck in to the M&S meal deals - ?10 for wine, a side, a main and a pudding for 2. That really is good value for money.