MadWorld74 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 and can we welcome our first speaker on this subject to the podium, it's jrussel...... (canned applause) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Canned tomatoes more like. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckhamgatecrasher Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 The difference is in being able to reproduce the accent.On the one hand, there is the Dick Van Dyke version, on the other, the Goodness Gracious Me variety. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macroban Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 This is a reasonable summary of the scientific evidence. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I dunno, but the irish are welsh who could swim Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrussel Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Oh, a humourous copycat thread.Anyway - to address the question posed:The fundamental difference is the geographical origin of the two peoples.However, in certain contexts, this difference is irrelevant. For example, if we are examining a person's entitlement to a British passport, then whether they are Welsh or English is of no significance whatsoever. To the best of my knowledge. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony.London Suburbs Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I understand perfectly well that it is Honourable,reasonable,fair and humane not to have any Prejudice.This is 100% correct ...but couldn't we just make a very small exception for The Welsh please.... ;) After all we used to quite dislike them in the days before Racism was bad:)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shygirl Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Not still smarting after the 6 Nations? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Considering their impact on London and the activities they engage in there is no difference and it is therefore not necessary to differentiated between them in any way. So if the question of a Welsh person?s nationality comes up in a work or social situation it is perfectly acceptable to refer to them as English and be indifferent if they take offence. The same applies vice versa of course. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratty Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Aren't some of the welsh spanish? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I thought they were jr Australians with different accents. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Isn't Australia somewhere in Wales? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosboss Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I don't think there are any Welsh people in Pembrokeshire! It's lovely ;-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDOldie Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 'ello boyo, yakky dah and all that. My, very good, Welsh friends tell me they are actually English, as when the barbarians invaded (Vikings etc) they pushed the original engish westwards. So the Welsh are the true 'natives' of the British Isles and the rest of you are johnny come lately's. www.museumwales.ac.uk/ if you're down there go, it's brilliant. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Well technically the Germanic cultures pushed out the predominantly Celtic cultures of the British Isles but the Celtic influence was a previous import from Europe as well.There are also similarities between pre Celtic British burial sights and those of a similar age in Europe suggesting that at least 1 more cultural colonisation had taken place prior to the Celts Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 A lovely Welsh lass I know told me that it's common practise for girls from the vallys to show their boobs to lads in pubs for a drink, so can't all be bad! :)-D Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratty Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Not just in the valleys. Happens regulalry in Tenby where you can get a glimpse of booby for the price of a drambuie! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Spot on Brendan, though even more technically the 'Celtic' cultures weren't even that Celtic, that being a misnomer heaped on them by a (ironically welsh) chap who actually thought the Celts were Central European Germanics, which they weren't.Not to say there was no celtic influence, which there was, it was just much much less so than the stock misunderstanding, as given us by EDOldie, would have us think.And yes ratty the Celts did wander up the Atlantic coast from Spain/southern France.Right Brendan, remind me to give you that book when next we meet. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadWorld74 Posted July 18, 2008 Author Share Posted July 18, 2008 New South Wales is in Australia. Mr MW74 is a New South Welshman. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 What, he's from Cardiff and he's in touch with his feminine side? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 lol. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulwichmum Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 No conversation on Wales would be complete without this slide show. A complete MUST see... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadWorld74 Posted July 18, 2008 Author Share Posted July 18, 2008 that is truly fcuking awful.... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadWorld74 Posted July 18, 2008 Author Share Posted July 18, 2008 but given the chance I'd get involved with the Swedish ladies..... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollybaby Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 The soundtrack made me laugh - always been a bit of a secret Black Lace fan! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3765-whats-the-difference-between-the-english-welsh-actually/#findComment-118955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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