Tessa Jowell's husband found guilty (Lounged)

[louisiana]

So the mortgage was in her name.

Did she hand the money back? Or give it to charity?

It's he least I would expect. After all, it's the proceeds of corruption.

[HonaloochieB]

All I know, is if Alistair Campbell was still running the country her feet wouldn't touch...

[Burbage]

It's unfortunate that Mr Mills' wrongdoing has been linked with Ms Jowell, and there is no justification for it. A rigorous Parliamentary Inquiry into the matter comprehensively cleared Ms Jowell of any breach of the rules, judging that, as dulwichmum points out, it is not an offence to be unsurprised by ?350,000 in the housekeeping (or, for that matter, to overstate your rent by a factor of five).

Mistaking the price of a house for small-change, though odd, is not in itself wrong. It might not be the best qualification for someone who's supposed to be delivering a multi-billion-quid project to a swamp near Stratford, but it's not wrong. Not like, for example, being browbeaten into war on the basis of a press-officer's googling. But I'm sure that was just a silly mistake, too.

[Michael Palaeologus]

Some of the comments on this thread are really very unpleasant and smack of the lynch-mob.

Pathetic. Get a grip of yourselves.

[matthew123]

If she cannot smell a rat in her own bed - then she is certainly not capable of being on the ball as a Government minister. She is looking after the runaway train that is the Olympics budget - does anyone have confidence she will be able to sniff out the inevitable corruption and back handers that bring taxpayers to their knees? No one is saying Tessa Jowell has performed a crime - just merely suggesting she does not have the aptitude for the good of the country.

She is our local MP and I've not heard from anyone who has ever spotted her in the locality - why are these tram lines and/or East London line extentions not coming to East Dulwich!?

At the next EDF drinks we should nominate an Independent candidate to take her down at the next General Election ;-)

[snoozequeen1]

Tessa Jowell's husband and the murdering criminals who knowingly sold infected blood

[Huguenot]

This seems bizarre, and I have faith in the readers of this fair forum to interpret wisely!

Firstly, SQ1, it's medieval to make a wife responsible for her husband's behaviour, let alone incriminate her for it. I'm disturbed that you think that way. I'm pleased to see the UK as a progressive society where women are recognised as independent individuals rather then mere chattel. Your own interests would best be served by not pursuing agendas that will result in your own subordination.

Perhaps you feel that she shares culpability by not making further enquiries as to the provenance of her husband's fees. However, if her husband was as great a ciminal as you make out, it would not be beyond his abilities to demonstrate these as evidence of his expertise, not dodgy dealings. The number of responses on the 'con-woman' thread demonstrate how the best in society can often be victim to the worst.

Perhaps you feel that she should involve herself more actively in her husband's affairs? Personally I'd prefer her to spend her time in a more focused way, delivering the services her constituents demand in the role she has been elected to.

I'm sure if the expos? had revealed she was working on her husband's business rather than her government role, you'd be up to hang her for that too.

Whether I agree with her policies is by the by. She should be judged on those. That's what elections are for, use your vote wisely!

This smells like a dirty, nasty smear campaign: housing estate scandalmongering. I sincerely hope that our politics never descend into that filthy gutter. Those that try to drag us there should be chastised and ostracised.

No witch hunt here please!

[snoozequeen1]

No, we're not talking about a witch hunt. We're talking about a police investigation.

Here is the Italian police officer leading the investigation, talking about what happened when they sought information from Tessa Jowell's husband:

With reference specifically to Tessa Jowell's behaviour, Hugenot, viewed apart from that of her husband, you seem to be missing the point. I understand you are not a resident in the UK, but choose to live abroad. So perhaps you are not familiar with the laws of the United Kingdom. Any and every citizen of this country who receives a large sum of money, has to account for where it comes from. This is to try to prevent money laundering by vicious drug traffickers.

Any person who had a mortgage in their name paid off with a cash sum of hundreds of thousands of pounds, is required by law to know and to state where that money came from. Claiming that it came from a husband, mate, son etc, etc, and that you did not therefore trouble to find out where they got it from, has not been accepted as a defence in other cases. Likewise anyone who tries to pay even more than a few thousand pounds into a bank account, is required to tell the bank where it came from, and the bank has to keep a record of the explanation given.

Any other citizen who acted as Mrs Jowell has done, would be very likely to be investigated for money laundering.

By the way, censorship may be the order of the day in the country of your choice, but it is not popular in the UK.

[digitalronin]

I'm with Craig Murray on this one.

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/02/tessa_jowell_sh.html

[Mark]

Snoozequeen1, "Ms Jowell was cleared of any wrongdoing after an investigation by UK parliamentary officials."

You have obviously read the parliamentary report and disagree with it, do you have some other information that we should know about? She was investigated and she was cleared, if you know of something that would overturn that decision then report it.

[SteveT]

snoozequeen1 I like your style and I would vote for you against Tessa Jowell, H Harman etc, anytime you decide to stand as MP for ED.

digitalronin thanks for the excellent craigmurray link.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

As Craig said:

"Either Jowell did not notice she was living with a major criminal - in which case she is far too stupid to be a minister - or she was complicit - in which case she is far too corrupt to be a minister.

No ifs or buts are possible.

Only when Mills was exposed to the media did Jowell abandon her husband - sacrificing her marriage for her political career. If she had remained loyal to him it would have at least been some slight saving grace. In fact the woman is a total disgrace.".......

[SeanMacGabhann]

Is it wrong for me to be excited at the prospect of Huguenot's response?

Although I'm not sure where

comes from. SQ - are you suggesting you are being censored??

[Huguenot]

For some there is no 'innocent until proven guilty', the legal approach of the lynch mob is more attractive it seems.

SQ1, you're hysterical! Am I to be the target of your unfounded allegations now? Oh woe. Guilty of the crimes of living in a foreign land, guilty of censorship, guilty of encouraging drug trafficking? I can see you now, leaning across the garden face with a string of invective and a scowl to frighten a bulldog. Perhaps you're pointing out my house with a stabbing action and purple cheeks? ;-)

I can assure you that I'm as British as your indignation, and as East Dulwich as the roundabout at Goose Green. Please consider me as adding a touch of tropical frisson, not unlike the plam tree overlooking the EDT or the potatos on your plate.

I've made no views on David Mills activities, it certainly seems that he has been shamed and brought to rights. Congratulations to all.

What I take issue with is your persistent mud slinging at Tessa Jowell. She has been investigated and found to be innocent of any improper conduct - a charge that carries a much smaller burden of evidence than a court. As a lawyer all of his contact is with people on the cusp of legality, all of it. He's a lawyer. As his wife, you can't investigate every client, you wouldn't be able to do the day job.

Or perhaps that's your agenda, you don't want her to have a day job?

Not for you the legal process, the evidence of criminality. For you she needs to be shamed, socially crippled, humiliated even, and it needs to be done publically. You want to get her, and don't care if it's wrong or right.

TLS, well really, she's not stupid, she's just human.

[????]

I have it on very good authority (a lollipop lady) that Tessa J is a clown

[Keef]

LOL

[postmodern]

Money laundering, fraud, theft, perverting the course of justice, manslaughter, assault and murder are only considered crimes when the acts are committed by ordinary civilians. Police officers and government ministers can, and regularly do, commit these offences without ever facing prosecution for their offending behaviour. Just wait until Davie Cameron and his snivelling bunch of pampered toffs take office. They'll be raping wenches, committing complex acts of frauds and perverting all courses of justice - and they'll get away with it every time. No doubt, they will be even worse than Nu-Nazi Labour.

[postmodern]

snoozequeen1 Wrote:

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This is to try to prevent money

> laundering by vicious drug traffickers.

What about non-vicious drug traffickers?

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[Tony.London Suburbs]

postmodern Wrote:

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> This is to try to prevent money

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> What about non-vicious drug traffickers?

Most drug traffickers are vicious...but fair....

[postmodern]

I wonder why viciousness comes with the territory. I guess I will have to discount trafficking as a career option then as I am not vicious.

Tony.London Suburbs Wrote:

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[AuraCaught]

tiger ranks Wrote:

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> all goverment officials are dodgy and they all

> take backhanders its the goverment way its been

> going on for years and it will never stop

I'm not!

[snorky]

Craig Murray should not really talk - I could tell you more about his backgound, but needless to say, hes not the best perosn to speak about integrity

TJ is in a position of responsibility and to get mired in this is shoddy and unbefitting, despite the handy / useful seperation aspect.

[woofmarkthedog]

Rotten...

Woof

[dc]

tiger ranks Wrote:

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all goverment officials are dodgy and they all take backhanders its the goverment way its been going on for years and it will never stop

At the risk of attracting the ire of the Administrator - that is complete and utter crap crap crap crap crap crap.

[Michael Palaeologus]

What dc said.