The new chicane at Goose Green roundabout

[macroban]

I was down that way and I've now seen it with No.1 eye-ball.

It looks incredibly dangerous. Accidents waiting to happen.

Did Southwark Council do a rsk assessment before agreeing the work?

[ratty]

Oooh, what's this? I drive it evry morning and evening and have not noticed a chicane. That's just begging me to see how fast I can take it! Watch out tonight about 6:30pm!

[SimonM]

Is this the one at the bottom of Spurling Road? I see it also permits cyclists to go the "wrong" way up there. Years ago I lived on that road and you'd get a double line of vehicles trying to exit it on to the roundabout in the mornings, which even then was a bit hazardous. Not really suitable for taking it fast then, unless you want to wrap the Porsche around the palm tree...>:D

[kford]

Is that the spur of pavement by the charity shop? Nearly rode into it on my motorbike this morning.

[Mark]

macroban Wrote:

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> It looks incredibly dangerous. Accidents waiting to happen.

I'm not sure I understand why it looks incredibly dangerous?

And isn't it part of a new zebra crossing or was that idea scrapped too?

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[TJS]

I am pretty sure it is done with the intention of the zebra crossing to come off it across the road

[karter]

Mark Wrote:

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> macroban Wrote:

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> > It looks incredibly dangerous. Accidents waiting

> to happen.

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> I'm not sure I understand why it looks incredibly

> dangerous?

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> And isn't it part of a new zebra crossing or was

> that idea scrapped too?

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I think the Zebras were meant to be raised making it even more fun for cyclists.

[Sue]

Erm, what's a chicane? :-$

[skidmarks]

I think you mean they?ve added a defection into roundabout to slow vehicles on the approach. Not good on this roundabout owing to its size, as rightly said by someone above is that cycles and motorcyclists get squeezed between vehicles and the buildout used to create the deflection.

Southwark under best practice should have undertaken a road safety audit (ask for it). There isn?t a mandatory requirement to do these on local roads only on highways agency roads but knowing Southwark they would have done one.

[LostThePlot]

I thought it was also a trip hazard, given the way there was no attempt to blend the surface into the existing pavement, so there is a lip, about 1 1/2" high where they join.

One for claimdirect methinks...

[bob]

Why have they tried to make the approaches one lane to the round about as it just slow's every thing down?????

Bob S

[Sue]

I still don't know what a bloody chicane is :))

[macroban]

I'm sure skidmarks can explain this better than me, but the transitional curves look all wrong, and deceptive alignments can be dangerous.

[Sue]

Eh?

:-$

[Sue]

Can someone post a picture so I know what this thread is about?

Please??

[Mick Mac]

I'll run down there and take a picture for you now Sue.

[skidmarks]

bob Wrote:

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> Why have they tried to make the approaches one

> lane to the round about as it just SLOW'S every

> thing down?????

> Bob S

I think you have answered your own question there. They don't want traffic bombing through especially as there are zebra crossings on the arms..at a guess

[bob]

Didn't know I was that clever rush's off for job a council trafic Dept.

Bob S

[Sue]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> I'll run down there and take a picture for you now

> Sue.

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WHERE IS IT??!!

:))

[Sue]

I looked up chicane on Google, and I'm still none the wiser :))

[Ladymuck]

Sue Wrote:

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> Erm, what's a chicane? :-$

Thank goodness! (I was too embarrassed to be the first to ask)! So, ANYONE, what's a chicane?

[Big Jim]

It's a dumb idea. You used to be able to get two cars out of LL. Now it's one. So the traffic backs up making it harder to cross - that or tempts people to cross between the cars.

If pedestrians are interested in safety, they should try looking before crossing at the zebras rather than assuming drivers are psychic and know they're going to cross. A little give and take on both sides would go a long way.

[jm78]

This is a chicane :)

http://4e.img.v4.skyrock.net/4e6/tedscalextric/pics/1970400175_small_1.jpg

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

I've negotiated it twice now when driving and haven't found it a problem. As a pedestrian, however, that crossing was always a little scary because of the two lanes - far side driver wouldn't see you until you were half way across.

[tomsav]

a chicane, SUE, is: an artificial feature creating extra turns in a roadway, used in motor racing and on city streets to slow cars.

On LL I'd guess the 'extra turn' involves turning two lanes into one.