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messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by nxjen 15 December, 2014 16:52

and this is all the market's fault??!!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was 2014:12:15:16:59:30 by nxjen.

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by DulwichFox 15 December, 2014 17:04

nxjen Wrote:
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> and this is all the market's fault??!!


It's all part and parcel.

On a Sat its all the market visitors who are too lazy to walk anywhere.
I walk everywhere and mainly use my car on a Sat to do my weekly shop.
Then I park in Whateley and take 2-3 trips to collect my shopping.

Remember My last reply was in response to Sue and parking issues.

DF



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was 2014:12:15:17:05:38 by DulwichFox.

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by jimbo1964 15 December, 2014 17:17

You could get your shopping delivered then you don't need to drive anywhere. The main problem is probably that lots of households have more than one car. I think most streets in London have the same pressure on space. It's not all caused by lorries delivering skip loads of sourdough and olives to the market.

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by DulwichFox 15 December, 2014 17:27

Going to Tesco is my highlight of the week.

Meat and veg * fish not the best but as good as anything you can buy locally.



DF

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by Ron70 15 December, 2014 17:37

DulwichFox Wrote:
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> Its 300 steps 258Mtres from my home to North Cross
> Rd.
>
> On one occasion a mini bus was parked outside my
> house for 2 weeks.
>
> Only last week I could not get outside my house
> for 6 days.
>
> If go shopping on a sat. I get back and cannot
> park outside my place till 6-7 pm
> And then if I spot a gap by the time i've gone
> round the block it's been taken.
>
> There are also 2 skips opposite and 2 doors along
> which has been there since June (30-40 Skips in
> that time)
> So there is the added problem of skip lorries /
> builders lorries / 3 houses that have had
> scaffolding.
>
> It is a complete nightmare. Non stop lorries all
> day.
>
> Foxy..

Yep in the grand scheme of things, this does sound like a real nightmare!

Ron70

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by cle 15 December, 2014 17:44

DulwichFox Wrote:
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> Going to Tesco is my highlight of the week.
>
> Meat and veg * fish not the best but as good as
> anything you can buy locally.
>
>
>
> DF

Great support for local businesses - really adds credibility to all of your previous posts on this topic

:-/

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by DulwichFox 15 December, 2014 17:52

cle Wrote:
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> DulwichFox Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Going to Tesco is my highlight of the week.
> >
> > Meat and veg * fish not the best but as good
> as
> > anything you can buy locally.
> >
> >
> >
> > DF
>
> Great support for local businesses - really adds
> credibility to all of your previous posts on this
> topic
>
> :-/

I'm a pensioner. I cannot afford the prices at places like Moxons 9.00+ for 2 Sea Bass fillets. 4.50 at Tesco.

You need to re-enter the real world.

DulwichFox

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by Jeremy 15 December, 2014 17:54

Without doubt Moxons isn't cheap, I'd usually regard shopping there as a luxury... but that doesn't mean that Tesco's fish is "as good as anything you can buy locally", does it?!

BTW, I'd say most visitors parking on a weekend are here for the shops, cafes, and restaurants. The market is quite small and not exactly a destination in its own right.

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by jimbo1964 15 December, 2014 18:02

Sopers are cheaper.. But probably not Tesco prices. Their Mackerel is always delicious.

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by DulwichFox 15 December, 2014 18:06

Jeremy Wrote:
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> Without doubt Moxons isn't cheap, I'd usually
> regard shopping there as a luxury... but that
> doesn't mean that Tesco's fish is "as good as
> anything you can buy locally", does it?!
>
> BTW, I'd say most visitors parking on a weekend
> are here for the shops, cafes, and restaurants.
> The market is quite small and not exactly a
> destination in its own right.

The market certainly IS a destination.. You cannot pass on the pavement for the crowds.

Since North Cross has been closed off on Market days, cars enter my road from Whateley rd. and
hit the first space thy can find, that's my end. So as soon as a space becomes available
it gets filled. Further down it is easier to get parked.

DF

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by Sue 15 December, 2014 21:28

DulwichFox Wrote:
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> It is a complete nightmare. Non stop lorries all
> day.
>


Fox, that is just totally untrue!

Unless they all come via Whateley Road and then do a u-turn outside your house so that they don't get as far down as mine big grin

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by Louisa 15 December, 2014 21:30

I live nowhere near North cross so I wouldn't want to step on DF or Sue's toes on this one. My main concern is the relevance of the market and whether the pros outweigh the cons.

Louisa.

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by DulwichFox 15 December, 2014 21:48

Sue
Next door but one is having 200'000. Worth of work done
The entire house I adds has been removed 40 skips changed every 2 3 days since June
Has now quiets down the place has been gutted
There have been 2 loft extns opposite

They drive passed you place in seconds you are hArdly
likely to notice them






The lorries are outside all day from 7.30 am

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by DulwichFox 15 December, 2014 21:51

Last post got corrupted
I'm typing on An iPod in the EDT
And lost the wi Fi

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by maxxi 15 December, 2014 23:56

I live close to NthX rd market - my experience is that the parking on surrounding streets is for all the local businesses including, but not restricted to, the market (judging by the shopping I see people returning to their cars with).

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by Jeremy 16 December, 2014 08:26

Of course, maxxi. I don't buy that any significant number of people drive into ED just for the little market.

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by 16 December, 2014 10:08

Absolutely - people drive and go and have a look at the market and some shops and maybe a pub. You know supporting local businesses But you know 'some people'want the lane like it used to be, Icealand, a little record shop and some indian restaurants before all the blow ins ete etc etc etc etc. Just ignore them.

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by Jeremy 16 December, 2014 10:27

You might as well blame your mates who have moved out of the area, and sold their houses for fat stacks (yo)

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by Louisa 16 December, 2014 11:28

Quids, before Iceland and the indian restaurants? They're all still here, alongside the market. I don't think the Iceland store adds to parking worries, nor do the curry houses.

Louisa.

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by Louisa 16 December, 2014 11:31

If anything - the estate agent boom, caused by gentrification, has contributed to parking woes more than any of the other concerns combined x 10

Louisa.

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by Jeremy 16 December, 2014 12:02

Most of the estate agents have been here since before the gentrification really kicked off.

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by MrBen 16 December, 2014 12:28

Indeed. Like cockroaches they will always be there...

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by cle 16 December, 2014 14:20

Jeremy Wrote:
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> You might as well blame your mates who have moved
> out of the area, and sold their houses for fat
> stacks (yo)

Interesting angle Jeremy... why not blame 'right to buy' and greedy West Indians for cashing in and making Brixton the land of 'Champagne & Fromage' - rather than the blow ins?

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by Jeremy 16 December, 2014 14:37

Or maybe you could just accept that time doesn't stand still.

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by Louisa 16 December, 2014 15:45

Time doesn't stand still. Who wants vibrant neighborhoods with local characters and gritty working class London reality when you can make everywhere in London overly expensive, well educated, pretentious and socially homogenised en mass. These crazy poor people wanting to live and buy in the place they were born in, absolute nutters. Totally unreasonable.

Louisa.

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by Jeremy 16 December, 2014 17:03

We've still got local characters. You and Fox, for a start! Always there to brighten up the day!

If I'm honest, not all the changes in the area suit me either, and there are things I miss from 10-15 years ago. But what's the point in banging on about it? People come, people go. Places change. The majority of recent-ish arrivals are not pretentious, just people who want to live in London and have found an area they can afford which has a bit of green space and a few pubs and stuff.

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by cle 16 December, 2014 17:07

Middle and upper class folk come with their own 'characters' too - and everyone is in their own reality. I don't understand how struggling or having less is more 'real'.

And god forbid our society is well educated!

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by 16 December, 2014 17:48

Here's some advice for the educated

Non pascentur, quod troglodytarum

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by DulwichFox 16 December, 2014 19:09

The market is not a new thing...

As I understand, back in the day. Not sure how far back.


There was a market from Lordship Lane right up to Crystal Palace Rd.
So I've been told.
Presumably there was not a parking problem back then.

And then shops on Upland Rd up to Barry Rd.

Indeed my shop was at 13 Upland rd. 1993.

Now 2 flats

So Foxy was indeed instigative of the first phase of regeneration.


DulwichFox

messageRe: New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham
Posted by Louisa 16 December, 2014 20:09

Fox there was a market nearly the entire length of the street. But it was a proper market selling everything in those days.

Jeremy I am not sure if I'm a character or not but I have been told I resemble Joan Collins younger sister in certain poor lighting. Her name escapes me.

Louisa.

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