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Not really, it's not a patch on Buck Rogers in the 25th Century!!

...and if predicting the end to all life on the planet isn't doom mongering I'm not quite sure what DOES qualify ;-)

Or the risks of air travel before 9-11? Are you suggesting we can never again utilise nuclear power? I am saying risks need to be investigated and assessed against the possible benefits, the impact of this going wrong assessed and action taken in the light of those assessments. I'm not suggesting yu are wrong, if we'd known the full impact of putting an internal combustion engine in a horseless carriage (the tens of millions dead, the choked cities, the climate damage) would we have gone ahead with it? But you do seem to be suggesting the paralysis of scientific development unless it can be proved absolutely safe. As Huguenot suggests, we Ll have to do this or we wouldn't get out of bed in the morning.

Isn't itnpractically de rigeur for shlebs in the US to be sentenced to a few days and spend fifteen minutes in the nick?

The US has made no secret that they've been afer him for years. I think the French enjoy winding them up though so were happy not to let him go on extradition. There are some rumours that the US did a bit of a deal with Switzerland, but who knows. This sort of thing does happen from time to time, Pinochet springs to mind. It wasn't a sudden interet in his past crimes it was responding to a subpeoana to a Spanish trial. I seem to recall tha there are a few Osraelis who can't come to Europe for outstanding war crimes charges.

I'm sorry Sean, but a serious crime was committed. He drugged a 13 year old girl and scared her into submission in order to rape and sodomise her and told her not to tell her mother of 'their little secret', pretty predatory behaviour(though obviously not as bad as photographing people in a park). I can understand that many years down the line she finds it a subject of some embarassment, but that's hardly the point is it. Dominic Lawson has a rather emotive attack on Polanski alsoin the Indy today, but most of it is fair, would those somquickmto condemn this arrest of a figure of genius have been sonic their thiteen year old daughter had been drugged and raped? It really a pretty bad 'so-called' crime. It's the power of celebrity that really disturbs me.

I'm sorry Sean, but a serious crime was committed. He drugged a 13 year old girl and scared her into submission in order to rape and sodomise her and told her not to tell her mother of 'their little secret', pretty predatory behaviour. I can understand that many years down the line she finds it a subject of some embarassment, but that's hardly the point is it. Dominic Lawson has a rather emotive attack on Polanski alsoin the Indy today, but most of it is fair, would those somquickmto condemn this arrest of a figure of genius have been sonic their thiteen year old daughter had been drugged and raped? It really a pretty bad 'so-called' crime. It's the power of celebrity that really disturbs me.

I'm sorry Sean, but a serious crime was committed. He drugged a 13 year old girl and scared her into submission in order to rape and sodomise her. I can understand that many years down the line she finds it a subject of some embarassment, but that's hardly the point is it. Dominic Lawson has a rather emotive attack on Polanski alsoin the Indy today, but most of it is fair, would those somquickmto condemn this arrest of a figure of genius have been sonic their thiteen year old daughter had been drugged and raped? It really a pretty bad 'so-called' crime. It's the power of celebrity that really disturbs me.

O hav to say Wienstein'sargumemt in the Indy is particulay weak. Basically he's a nice guy who's suffered a bit, the fact that he wasn't slapped on the wrist is a miscarriage of justice and as for the so called crime faggeddaboudit. http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/harvey-weinstein-polanski-has-served-his-time-and-must-be-freed-1794699.html

It is all q bit weird isn't it. So the psychological evaluation was presumably to work out if the reason he comitted the 'lesser crime' of raping a minor was because he was mad or just your common-or-garden sex pest? But let's not allow that to get in the way of finishing your film sir, fawn fawn. Freakish!

I'm vaguely in agreement. We're about to have our first child and we can afford it, though it'll not be without it's financial burdens obviously. Do we need child benefit? Probably not, though the income will obviously be useful. I'd like to see the figures behind the 7 billion savings, im not saying I trust this goverments judgement not one iota, ok I probably am if they're the same people that assured us ID cards would be cheap and tha the olympics would come in at under 2 billion but there you go. A quick look at the conservatives proposals/justification and you see the usual suspects coming out of the woodwork complaining about single mums and the death of marriage leaves me equally unconvinced that they even know what they want. Also I'm not convinced that it was intended for population growth. It was part of a socially progressive policy aimed at elimenating poverty, disease and ignorance. I think this pertains evry bit as much to today's ills doesn't it?

Helps to read what was going on I guess, I'd always assumed he'd fled on being accused. Didn't realised he'd been convicted and admitted to it. Well have to agree with the OP in that case.

Innocent until proven guilty is traditional. But then it's usually the way that if you're accused of a crime you go to trial and defend yourself. Shows the defern e to celebrity that it's taken over thirty years for this to happen.

I'm not denying that there may be more testIng needed, but something about HAL's doom mongering there brings to mind those who doubtless spoke equally knowledgeabley as they predicted the widespread burning of crops if we introduced these new fangled steam locomotive things.

Yossi got a couple of intermittent boos the other day (not many admittedly) but it was enough to annoy me as he's a good lad and I wish him well. I remember being very pissed off wih the boo boys when Bilic first visited after his move to Goodison Park, despite a great offer he had stayed a while season with us with the express intention of keeping us up (which he managed) and that was his reward. I saw Rio's first return with leeds when he got his first goal at Upton Park in over two years and he got an ovation from the home crowd. I guess you can never work people out.

We've been here before though haven't we. Just a bad start, a few tough fixtures, were too good to go down.....oh shit. But I agree. I'm not worried yet either.

Of course these days it's these immigrant ladybirds, we haven't got enough resources in this country for them and our native ladybirds, dubtless they arrived on Peckham's racist trees, Gordon Brown should do something, won't anyone think of the children?!?! Actually they are nasty little buggers, they're aggressive and they bite.

Good game mind. We seem to be losing alot of good games.

I hope the next one gets signed in Brest *titter*

I cant believ anyone as corrupt and odious, a proven liar no less, is given a platform like that. But yeah, the first analogy simply makes you discount anything else he says in the hugely unlikely event that he has anything useful to add ... to anything.

I think moos was actually referring to the word challoween, though the C is of course silent, except in Scotland.

Possibly because solar panel technology has the benefit of almost a century of development. There are also some petty funky solar collectors too (the one in Sevilla is very cool). There have been some interesting advances in wave power but noone has a proven working implementation beyond a prototype. However the urgency is for solutions to have been implemented yesterday.

Or was it Barry Manilow? I'll check imdb.

It'll probably be awful but you never know. Insomnia was an excellent remake of the Swedish original (or was it norweigan?)

Good to see you using your refound thread starting powers so well. To stay on topic, give a man enough rope....