I think I agree with most of that Alan but the tool you are using to define where one lives (ie postcodes) is a very crude one Postcodes were implemented to automate mail sorting - and have since been adopted for other purposes. Which is fine as far as it goes but it doesn't tell the whole story. And it certainly doesn't constitue an area's actual boundary On the shame thing - there is sometimes a snob thing going on with some people - It's been discussed many times before. But if I lived near the Gowlett (SE5 postcode) I would say I lived in ED, not Peckham. If I lived near Bar Story I would say I lived in Peckham. Neither would bother me. Honestly. In Hoopers case, it is so borderline it doesn't warrant any further discussion really. I don't think it's a shame thing they call themselves ED - if they tell peopl eto arrive by train they are going to say get off at ED. If they say come by bus they are going to say get the bus to ED and when you pass Camberwell AND Denmark Hill Station and descend DKH into ED, get off there...