giggirl, I guess you are primarily talking about me. The thread was effectively ruined by the time I came along, thanks to a certain other user's bizarre, attention-seeking boasts. If it had been entirely on-topic, I probably wouldn't have got involved. However, most men find it incomprehensible that anyone could get "exhausted" at the thought of buying a couple of outfits, and my post was intended to reflect this in a light-hearted way. I regret using language which obviously upset Ms B (and I did PM her to try and straighten it out), but I stick by the gist of what I said. Shameful? I am not ashamed at all.