>So your dig at Revie was that he was too loyal by only achieving with one club? Pah.< He did not achieve that much for Leeds though did he, in terms of major trophies won? Leeds did have this tendencey to fall at the final hurdle - hence their successes in the Fairs Cup - the Losers' competition. I'm the first to admit that if Revie was a failure I wish Sheffield United had failed like that during the same period! The thing with Clough is until he split with Taylor and went to Leeds he had a record of achievement with a whole string of clubs, from turning Hartlepool around to winning european trophies with two distinctly unfashionable sides.