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Rah x3 That's an interesting point about the cognitive load caused by always being accessible (phone, email, social media...) and the demands from streaming services (back in the day 3 channels was enough for many) which means to avoid the crisis getting worse, we should take time to switch off and reunite with our family and that the manufacturers should look at ways of making their meals quick, nutritional and healthy without loading sugar, salt, fat and invented ingredients (any idea what E124 is?) But we should all look at cooking quick meals that are healthy, cheap and tasty (as much as I don't like to use it as an example but Jamie's 15 minute meals was a good start) The second issue is Bogoffs ate normally for calorie rich, empty foods and the way to help the public here is to offer Bogoffs on healthier nutritional foods and not things like crisps or fizzy drinks. After all we don't want to see our young dying prematurely from avoidable obesity related conditions that could be avoided by changing hosw and what the nation buys and eats.

NewWave, I'm curious about what you are arguing for here. Are you saying that it's okay not to care about children getting obese because parents work or can't cook simple meals ? Are you saying modern parents are lazy in the kitchen and the chicken shops are their saviours ? Are you saying aa a nation we shouldn't try to stop the obesity crisis by getting the food industry to produce healthier food ? I just can't work out what you are arguing for? For reference, I grew up with both parents working, there were latchkey kids everywhere and yet most parents did prepare quick nutritional meals for their families. After ww2 there were high numbers of single parents (for obvious reasons) working to make ends meet, struggling with rationing yet still making nutritional meals. It's only since the invention of fast food and ready meals plus cheap empty calories that we stopped cooking and started getting obese ..

The world war 2 diet caused by rationing demonstrated that NewWave. Sadly when it was suggested that fat, sugar and salt were kept to a minimum, the food lobbies put up such a fight that only fat was demonised yet since then there has been a realisation that a combination of the three is where danger lies. It was amazing how the families then created nutritional meals with very little and without the temptation of two for one offers on cheap fatty, salty and sugary foods. I do wonder if modern families could do it now or if they would all lamemt the loss of the golden arches, high calorie empty foods or delivery services. 🤔

This is a blow in the fight to cut obesity BBC News - Junk food: Obesity strategy falling apart, Jamie Oliver says https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61449921 Whilst no one wants a nanny state, removing temptation is a key ingredient in fighting obesity. I wonder if the government department sugared the deal with the food manufacturers ?

Maybe this is how it will happen Just like cats and dogs we will be identifiable in the future https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61008730

Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Angelina Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I am going to miss the forum for conversations > > such as this > > If I can't waste my time bickering about traffic > with monomaniacs, I'll probably just have to go > back to curing cancer or bringing peace to the > Middle East or something... OMG It is you Tony, how's Cherie ?

Or McDonald's

"To the Mayor of London and TfL every trip is important" Takes on a new meaning now 😆

Heartblock Does magic, or slight of hand answer your question ?

I remember when we had a Mexican on the lane ... love a good fajita

Admin, this is where a like button is needed 🤣

This may well open up a debate, but I wonder if he sampled some of the goods at the farm he visited ? BBC News - London Drugs Commission to look at legalising cannabis https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-61416295

exdulwicher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe I've been part-banned as well...! > > Maybe there's a little AI bot reading my > contributions and going "nah, that's just traffic, > not East Dulwich". Lol Maybe it's like councillors twitter accounts where only people they follow or people mentioned in their tweets can reply...

We must be on the flight path today 🤔

I heard that Doug has one 😅

Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rahrahrah Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > ?Sheeple? 🤣😂 > > > "?Sheeple?, a portmanteau of sheep and people, is > the term conspiracy theorists use about the rest > of the population, those who they consider > passively credulous..." > https://www.economist.com/1843/2020/09/17/from-pla > ndemic-to-breadcrumbs-conspiracy-theory-slang > > There has been plenty of conspiracy theorising on > this thread, not least a suggestion that the > Southwark Cyclists were secretly more powerful > than the Masons and the Bilderberg Group > combined... But like the masons, the cyclists tend to have one trouser leg rolled up to protect it from the chain oil and all have a secret hand shake (although in the cyclists case it seems to be a moving "O"aimed at car drivers) So maybe your conspiracy theory has legs after all Billy

Hare, "the lane" in my mind implies Rye Lane not Lordship Lane so there is potential confusion there by using just the Lane 🤔

Wow So much negativity towards new businesses on Lordship Lane. Putting them down before they open, when we should be celebrating the fact that they see Lordship Lane as a thriving environment to open up on. Other high streets have swaths of closed or boarded up premises so let's celebrate each new business, give them a chance and our support and hopefully they will survive without having their legs taken away from under them before they start. Or would you all rather see a town centre that is full of closed businesses with the occasional pound shop providing a grim statement on the affairs of a once healthy thriving High Street?

Or the fox project https://foxproject.org.uk/ They have an emergency ambulance number and may advise

Sorry Ken Obviously no point discussing this with you as you seem to know it all. Guessing that you already knew that M?os, an unconventional and experimental Shoreditch dining room, which earned a Michelin star in 2019, has announced it closed at the end of April 2022. I guess you already know that over the years so many Michelin Star restaurants have failed as well (apparently chefs and business aren't known for mixing well) But hey ho, we will all bow to your knowledge and accept that food businesses all make huge profits because ingredients are cheap and some actually grow on trees 🌳😉

ken78 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What did they do before the app any one know ? > what's worse than the app is how you pay amx has a > big charge but as we all use it is ok. and is > jamie oliver the only one that went skint that's > not bad,,, Sephiroth don't you know that a lot of > restaurants put up the price on the apps ? Ken, whilst this is an old article, it does go through some of the major chains that went bust inckudion Byron, zizzi, cafe rouge... well worth a flick before saying "one going out of business isn't bad" https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/restaurant-chains-collapsed-restructured-cut-23220328 Before the app, people rang up, or walked to the restaurant but now it's feeding obesity by allowing you to lay in bed and order, for example, a McBreakfast where as before you may have picked one up as part of your commute which involved walking. The app companys are the ones who introduced us to zero hours contracts for their delivery people and yes you can scroll through many restaurants on one app but guess what, put the search "restaurants near me" in any browser search bar returns , wait for it as its a huge surprise, a list of restaurants near you 🤔 Apps that sit between the consumer and the business aren't there for the sake of either, they are there to make huge amounts of money, be it delivery apps, comparison apps, or even cashback apps, they don't do it for the love of you or the product, they do it to make cash, capture your data (which they may or may not sell on) and build a marketing profile about you so they can sell you more. Don't be an app clone, get out discover places you wouldn't have before and remind yourself how to think for yourself rather than being told what to think and eat 🤫

ken78 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > j.a. > never see a michelin chef skint ??? Really? But even Michelin star chefs businesses go bust 🙄 Then what about Jamie's chains or other chains ?

Possibly because they have a dream and idea that they can make it The attrition rate in the restaurant business is very high so whilst a lot open, some will succeed and a lot will close Sadly if they offer cheap food, it's often because they use cheap or poor quality ingredients to produce it. But regardless why should the delivery firms profit massively on their backs.

Well that went south rather quickly people... 😳