Spartacus

JeniJenJen, obviously the part where the council listen to local views occurred at the same time as their collective hearing aides ran out of batteries. Very few people actually want the measures and most want the council to go back to square one and hold proper consultations on what is actually needed locally. The way the council has operated may well see ramifications come local elections in a few months.

It does feel like the tail is wagging the dog here Council not listening to residents because they know best 😱

Anyone wishing to object to or make any other representations regarding the proposals, may use the form labelled 'Parking - Road traffic and highway schemes - responding to statutory consultation notices' at https://www.southwark.gov.uk/statutoryconsultationnotices or send a statement in writing to: the Traffic Orders Officer, Highways, Southwark Council, Environment and Leisure, P.O. Box 64529, London SE1P 5LX or by e-mail to [email protected] quoting reference the reference for each individual traffic order by 11 November 2021. TMOs are ?TMO2122-EXP13_Melbourne Grove north? ?TMO2122-EXP14_Grove Vale Trial?. ?TMO2122-015_DS Calton Avenue area? ?TMO2122-16_DS Champion Hill? ?TMO2122-017_DS East Dulwich area' ?TMO2122-18_DS Melbourne Grove south? ?TMO2122-19_DS bus, cycle and taxi routes?

The consultation on the new TMOs opened on the 21st and runs through to the 11th November Details of the results of the recent consultation are here https://www.southwark.gov.uk/transport-and-roads/improving-our-streets/live-projects/dulwich-review?chapter=3

DR, you've hit the nail on the head, people want to be told what to do rather than take responsibility for their own actions and once told they have someone else to blame if things don't work out. It's not just masks but possibly most aspects of life at the moment.

Malumbu I quite agree about the lack of mask wearing, especially as cases are appearing to accelerate and I can't defend the Government's decision not to reintroduce mask wearing as a minimum as every person and their dog knows it's needed (but not everyone agrees with them) All we can do whilst we wait for "plan B" to start (and it's obvious it's needed now) is to protect ourselves and wear masks in busy places, social distance as much as possible and where we can work from home. If this Government won't be sensible then at least we all can.

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Damn! I though this was a thread about Bros. You're not famous yet PGC, but it's just a matter of when..

I for one, am glad buses have returned to Rye Lane Without them it made it inaccessible to myself and other disabled residents and a huge inconvenience. If cyclists have to divert a short distance to use a safe route then it's possibly a very small price to pay to make Rye Lane accessible to all again.

Caught the opening episode last night and to me it didn't represent the Peckham I know and grown to love over the past quarter of a century. That's my view but what did other people think ? Hit or must Miss

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This was spotted/mentioned back in March. > ?E? for Effort in persistency ! Amazing Time travelling posts as this for sale one was added yesterday not in March 🤔 Maybe the next one will be for a Doctor Who outfit 😂

This leads to questions that dare not be asked /forum/read.php?9,2240260 Hope there's not a "Bert the chimney sweep" matching one 😱

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Net zero Is that the new name for facebook ?

Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Seabag Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > What happens if you take your number plates > off? > > > > That?ll make it harder for them. > > > > And take the windows out too, that way nobody > can > > stick a ticket on your Windscreen. > > TFL HATES THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK > If you don?t drive, you don't have to pay the ULEZ > fee.h What sort of scammer dues that DKHB ? Imagine the brass neck of not driving so you can't be fined... disgraceful behaviour 😱

womanofdulwich Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But you know this is all a warm up for a future > car paying scheme, right?no matter what car you > have. Possibly But is that actually a problem ? I'm assuming that VLED will be removed so you pay per mile with the heaviest users of the road paying more. The only downside is "big brother" will know your every movement 😱

march46 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's hardly shocking news that One Dulwich grossly > overestimate figures. > > More like 250-300 people from what I saw. Will > they be cleaning the graffiti off the signs or is > the council going to have to do that? > > https://i.imgur.com/HCAjbWB.jpg I've heard a rumour (admittedly on twitter) that the sign was altered before the protest, not on the day and if true you can't tar the protest with that brush! And again, did you do a head count on the day or are you supplying a best guesstimate? I think that without a formal or informal head count then it's hard to prove or disprove how many people attended over the 90 minutes but what can be proved is that neither the council (Officers or councillors) or our local MP were there to see the strength of protest at the schemes

Northern, were you there and did you do a head count or can you otherwise prove the numbers are inflated ?

macutd Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It looks like everywhere is back to normal, except > much more expensive!! Someone obviously got hold of the now running low stocks of Harry Potter wands and made the panic buying go away vanishpanicus

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What you will have to do is drive your car to a > one way street that either leaves or enters the > ULEZ zone, then push it. Like pushing a powered > two wheeler it is no longer a car but a pedestrian > so you wont be charged. Only as long as you aren't wearing a jumper at the time 😱 BBC News - Bus lane camera mistakes woman's sweater for number plate https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-58959930

ken78 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > so i live in dulwich and drive to kent and back > again on the same day will i have to pay to get to > my home ??? If you do it all in one day then you pay one days ULEZ, it's not a case of paying to come back in but paying if you are seen on camera Therefore leaving the boundary will trigger a charge, and entering again later in the day will be covered by the same charge

If memory serves well the Program Programme installed the pop up bollards as "they work well in Oxford" The problem with them was that Cars tailgated buses and found a bollard popping up under them. Cost of repairs were so high that the achene was abandoned and eventually taken out. The issue of "another experimental traffic order" may well be resolved post the next local elections 😉

If you've ever been asked to identify yourself online then services like the post office verify service check you are who you say you are by looking at your existing digital documents and information so I suspect services like this will be used rather than the sort of vetting done by police and other key organisations.

Look on the large directional road signs where the black and white circle "ULEZ" has been added. It seems to be an add on to the existing large signs rather than a new sign cluttering the drivers vision.

I noticed over the weekend that road signs have been amended to show ULEZ entry points. Not convinced it's clear to outside London drivers as its a white circle with a black border and ULEZ in black. Didn't really jump out as to what it is in my opinion.

If you have a passport or driving licence (both of which are linked) then there is already a form of digital id out there for you. Add to that credit / bank cards and loyalty cards plus other schemes and your digital footprint is complete. I can't see the problem with having an ID card (be it digital) as unless you have something to hide then you have nothing to fear Plus it may well sort out social media as trolls will have no where to hide 😱

I'd your car isn't compliant, You pay a daily charge for going out and if your return is on a different day you then incur a daily charge again on return