NewWave

Was this your 1st or 2nd dose? I had Pfizer and felt much much worse after the 2nd shot than I did the 1st.

Well said. My first day back with the public tomorrow and to say I'm nervous is an understatement! The thing I'm most dreading is the people who because they can shop in a store again feel its ok not to wear a mask. Its bad enough on the tube with so many not bothering to obey the rules I think West end shops will be full of idiots thinking everything is 'normal'

LJC56 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Arapina, a new bakery advertising healthy > lifestyle baking, is open in the old Threshers, > and smells delicious. And how great to see that > shop space being used after what must be 20 years > empty. How many bakeries does one road actually need? I'm actually got 'bakery fatigue"

I had my First Pfizer shot mid Feb-aside from a sore arm for a couple of days only other side effect was feeling very tired the next day and slight headache. 2nd shot-Pfizer yesterday evening I feel like I have the flu-aching all over and tired. intermittent headache and shivers. Helped by having a Lemsip. grateful to have had my 2nd dose!

I went to school with Bill Oddie's daughter...FACT!

sounds par for the course for this government so far.

My OH had his 1st jab on Friday. Astra Z : he hasn't had Covid. Side effects-one on the day but the next day he felt slightly fluey,achey but nothing major

done thank you for posting this

drewd Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Clearly lots of people have mental health problems > (many have health anxiety which is made worse by > the sight of people not wearing masks in public > places!). But only a minority of people have a > problem wearing a mask. Binkylilliput's post that > portrays mental health problems and masklessness > as almost one and the same thing is frankly > ridiculous and an attempt to silence those who > have valid concerns about the risks posed by those > not wearing masks. > > If the staff in Gails or anywhere else cant wear > masks for health reasons they should wear a > prominent badge that explains that. A guy in my > corner shop had no mask on the other day. I asked > why. He said he was exempt which was pretty funny > as a few days earlier he'd had one hanging from > his chin. Similarly, a guy in the Sainsbury's > Local on Lordship Lane is almost never wearing his > mask but frequently has it hanging round his chin. > Today he was talking loudly and constantly to a > colleague, spraying his aerosol for everyone to > enjoy. I have complained the to the manager about > him. > > And enough with the "you're a nasty person shaming > others for not wearing masks". I don't want to > catch Covid and I don't want to give it to anyone > else. And I certainly dont want long Covid. I act > accordingly. I don't think it cruel or > unreasonable to expect other people to do the > same. Well said!

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Beware psychosomatic/anxiety effects - I'll > definitely be having them as I can feel aches > coming on after receiving my text to go in and > have the vaccination. > > I'll update how I feel next week though - > hopefully I'll say none. I'm sure you'll be fine! I was expecting all sorts of side effects and thankfully the ones I had were minimal and bearable.

I work in a shop and we are are working through the Lockdown dealing with online orders and telephone orders whilst the store is closed-We all wear masks all day except some staff members who are exempted for medical reasons and they HAVE to wear a badge or some have a laminated sign they wear on a lanyard-this rule has been laid out by our health and safety team. This was also the case when the store was open, although one of those staff members chose to wear a visor when facing the public as he felt more commutable that way. The people that I object to are the muppets who just dont want to wear a mask or think its somehow macho or 'cool' not to do so.

jimlad48 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NewWave Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > jimlad48 Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > > > > > > They don't have to though, and they shouldn't > > be > > > forced to. > > > > > > God I hate and despise the mask facists. > > > > Wearing a mask protects others from catching > YOUR > > germs if you have the virus and are > asympomatic. > > I H**E and D*****E people like YOU who are > > contributing to the rediculous death toll in > this > > country and the loss of many thousands of jobs > and > > businesses. > > You are selfish and ignorant. > > I wear a mask for 12 hours a day at work and on > my > > daily commute-I hate wearing a mask but I would > > hate even more knowing that I may unwittingly > > infect someone who goes on to lose their life > or > > that of a loved one because I "dont want to wear > a > > mask' > > Friends of mine have lost their jobs, Friends > of > > mine have lost family members-And people like > YOU > > JIMLAD48 make me feel nauseous > > I wear my mask where I need to actually you > terribly judgemental person. > > What I despise is the horrid nasty people who go > out of their way to shame people who may have > perfectly good reasons for not wearing one. Its > your judgemental attitude trying to shame people, > who have done nothing wrong, and in the process > shame business struggling to survive for the sake > of the perceived moral high ground. > > Given that most of the area is practically COVID > free, those that are vulnerable are vaccinated, > and those who aren't have little to fear, perhaps > we could lose the creeping fascism of shaming > those who cannot avoid being different and accept > that the world isn't going to end, that actually > the risk is incredibly low, and that we need to > get on with our lives, and not act in terror of > something that poses very little threat to most > people now due to vaccines and age profiles. > > Instead we're seeing people shaming individuals > who may have personal circumstances that mean they > can't wear one, and that we should publicly shame > and humiliate them for the crime of being > different. Thats a really horrid thing to do - to > target someone for no reason other than your own > prejudice and desire to be outraged that people > may not be able to conform, even if they > desperately want to. 'Adhere and belong or be > shamed' - that sort of attitude would fit in well > in Berlin in the late 1930s. Its not nice, its a > horrible way to isolate and shame people who have > done nothing wrong - don't assume that because > people aren't wearing, they are somehow doing > something wrong. > > > > . I wasn't commenting on those exempted from wearing a mask. and I was not the OP complaining about staff not wearing masks in Gails. My comment was in direct response to your comment about people 'dont have to wear masks and visors and they shouldn't be forced to' If people are NOT exempt they should be reminded that it is mandatory to wear a mask in a shop or on public transport. However as you correctly state we cannot 'force' anyone to do anything however I would hope that respect for the health and safety of others would prevail. You came across in your post as an anti mask wearer and if I misunderstood I apologise.

jimlad48 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > They don't have to though, and they shouldn't be > forced to. > > God I hate and despise the mask facists. Wearing a mask protects others from catching YOUR germs if you have the virus and are asympomatic. I H**E and D*****E people like YOU who are contributing to the rediculous death toll in this country and the loss of many thousands of jobs and businesses. You are selfish and ignorant. I wear a mask for 12 hours a day at work and on my daily commute-I hate wearing a mask but I would hate even more knowing that I may unwittingly infect someone who goes on to lose their life or that of a loved one because I "dont want to wear a mask' Friends of mine have lost their jobs, Friends of mine have lost family members-And people like YOU JIMLAD48 make me feel nauseous

Signed! The background to your story resonated with me having gone through a similarly dreadful time in the space of a year. I sincerely wish you every success in this-you deserve to have this sanctuary and shouldn't be put in fear of losing your home. Good luck!

Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Been into Gail's in Dulwich Village twice in the > last week, and each time there were staff members > not wearing masks. First time it was someone > behind the counter, and second time it was a > different person behind the counter and some kind > of manager doing the books at one of the tables. > The second server had a badge saying something > like "I'm exempt from masks". > > I understand there are some people exempted from > wearing face masks for health reasons...but it > seems a remarkable coincidence that so many work > at the same shop. Even if they are exempt in their > ordinary life - seems like in the middle of a > global pandemic it would be a legitimate > requirement of the job to wear a face covering > when handling food and drink in a busy cafe. If > you can't do that bit of the job, maybe you > shouldn't be allowed to work there? You wouldn't > get hired as a firefighter if you couldn't put the > helmet on... Since it bothers you so much why didn't you raise it with the manager in the shop mentioned? I'm not defending Gails by any means but you say you witnessed the non wearing of masks on two occasions then came on the forum to complain. Perhaps you should have gone to the person in charge to complain on the spot then emailed head office? THEN posted on this forum if upon a third visit things hadn't changed. Also considering their customers probably dont mainly come from ED (we have enough bread and coffee shops in and around Lordship lane thank you very much) posting this won't actually make any difference to their behaviour or their takings.

bodsier Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm compelled to write this because I really think > that its even more important nowadays to think > things through. I totally understand and comply to > the covid rules....however after a year it does > start to have a detrimental impact. If you dont > run ( not great for some due to the impact on > joints) and walking is not a cardio vascular > challenge ...I was so happy to come across people > exercising outdoors socially distancing and Having > a great time. When I joined It was my lifeline > and...clearly was also beneficial to all others in > their 50s to get out and get fresh air whilst > exercising. It's been wonderful for physical and > psychological health. I spoke to one woman today > who had said that she was suffering mentally > earlier today and coming out to do aerobics was > protective of her mental health which was now > deteriorating following the long lockdown. It was > such a shame to be met with 2 policemen before we > had even started. Told to disband due to there > being more than 2 people gathering. Someone had > complained.... isnt it important that we think > outside the box here. Exercise is so incredibly > important but I find it so hard to motivate myself > at home. I want to exercise outside and as I used > to swim... I cant do that at present so aerobic > exercise is such a great alternative. > > It honestly was so therapeutic and we always kept > 2 metres apart and NONE of us have contracted > covid in the time we have been doing this. Please > if anyone is tempted to report gatherings could > you at least wait until you see it as unsafe..... > the lack of exercise is having such a detrimental > effect on us physically and mentally it may just > mean we add to the burden on the NHS and the > economy. If we listened to Boris we'd have booked > our holidays for the summer and be spreading the > virus further and wider. Instead I'm staying > put.remaining in London..keeping my distance and > staying safe. I would never put mine or other > people's lives at risk. Let's use our common sense > in these difficult times and not turn against each > other. Please When the police dont respond to this /forum/read.php?5,2114482 A man threatening a family and making obscene suggestions at a small child and then going to intimidate and strike terror into two young girls I find it hard to believe they actually tuned up to break up a socially distanced group of people exercising-especially when there were many people in groups in the parks eating picnics over the weekend.

emu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My daughter and her friend were approached > yesterday (27/02/21) at 1745 by a man in Peckham > Rye Park. They were sitting on a log chatting near > the edge of the park adjacent to Harris boys. > Before they had a chance to realise he was heading > for them very quickly he was stood right in front > of them ( they were seated on a log). He then told > them not to move and to be very quiet. He removed > his backpack and took out a bike D lock which he > threw on the ground in front of them. Then he > started to rant about black slavery and called > them names like little white bitches and worse. He > stood very close, the girls felt very threatened > and froze not sure what he would do if they were > to try and get up and run. My daughter tried very > hard to make eye contact with a couple with a > small child on a bike passing by but they failed > to recognise the girls were in distress. My > daughters friend started crying uncontrollably > then the man told them they could go the whole > situation lasted a couple of minutes. They got up > and ran towards the bottom of Barry Rd till they > were sure he wasn't following and rang 999. > Unfortunately after 1 hr the police still had not > showed up. The police have come for statements > today. > He is a black man 30ish about 6ft and was wearing > jeans and a black hoodie, maybe the same guy as > the original post above. This incident has been mentioned here: https://se23.life/t/agressive-person-in-the-peckham-rye-park/17118/7

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There has been some suggestion that side effects > are more marked if the person being vaccinated has > had Covid-19. (And, as a corollary, for those that > have had a second vaccine that their side effects > have been worse than when they had the first). > > Perhaps those who have had significant side > effects (worse say than a partner) could include > with their feedback whether they have had, or > suspect they've had, Covid already. Excellent idea! And also updates in symptoms after the 2nd jab would be helpful I feel

Nigello Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hmm, lovely Luca that refuses - as printed on the > menu - to give a hot water top-up to your teapot > and adds a "gratuity" to the order for table > service, unlike other similar establishments on > both counts. Not convinced that constitutes > "lovely", though I do think it is a good addition > to NXR and wish it well (and hope it rethinks its > miserly tea top-up attitude!) And yes, I did speak > up when I was there (a few months ago so maybe it > has changed) so I am not moaning into the ether. I cant speak for the hot water top-up because I'm a coffee drinker and my OH doesn't drink tea either But we often used to go there for brunch at weekends and I'd go there for lunch after a gym work out now and again and never had gratuity added to the bill.

siousxiesue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Couldn't agree more admin! > > I really like to see all the people on here > reporting various side effects/none and it makes > me slightly optimistic about the future, > finally... Agree!

Also Dulwich and Sydenham woods although very muddy when we walked there yesterday in addition to being busy on the narrow paths still had people jogging which made for some uncomfortable moments of me stepping off the path into the bushes or almost slipping in the mud to get out of their way. I really am NOT anti joggers my OH jogs almost daily but all I ask is that they try and show respect for others dont run up to them puffing in their face, or run uncomfortably close behind them. THINK-not everyone is agile enough to dodge out your way. cant you slow your pace a little rather than running uncoftably close up behind pedestrians? If its a nice day chances are pavements and parks will be busy-perhaps jog earlier in the morning or later in the evening like my OH does-

Ahhh! good! I suggested cross posting and realise this has already been done. I've signed.

heartblock Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Brickhouse bakery Peckham Rye loaf .... sadly > missed. Gail?s is owned by Mr. Brexit... the bread > isn?t as good as Brickhouse, but they do make > tasty treats. I will be tempted.... I won't be tempted even if they gave the food and coffee away. I am massively anti the homogenisation of every shopping street and neighbourhood. I'll go to Luca on North X road as I do now...lovely people who have served the community well during Lockdowns past and present

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It?s up to the runners to avoid pedestrians on > pavements or wherever they may be. > People walking have less time to react to runners > than they do other people who are walking like > them. > Walking on a pavement having a runner approach > close from behind or not give you space from the > front when oncoming means you?re getting large > volumes (compared to walkers) of heavy breathing > air in a short period of time. > It?s not fair and it?s not the runners automatic > privilege to negatively impact the safety of > pedestrians with respect to Covid. > It?s not a god-given right to slather over people > during a pandemic, just cos they feel their > freedoms are being impinged otherwise. Totally agree! going to the park (especially Dulwich) is actually stressful because of all the joggers especially around late morning lunchtimes. also the narrow pavements on Dulwich common road are often blighted by having joggers run at me puffing and panting in my face. My OH is a daily jogger and he actually finds the park too busy and tends to jog either early morning or late evening on roads when its quieter and avoids the park now. the WORST are the couples jogging who take up the pavement and make no attempt to go single file or break step for a moment to let pedestrians pass-I had to step into the road the other day because of this which resulted in me getting thoroughly soaked by a passing car going through a puddle. not acceptable !