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Well if it's the contractors working on the ex Dulwich Van Hire site ( and from the road nos it sounds very near them ) they get no sympathy from me. I rarely use the adjacent bus stop ,but was horrified a couple months ago to see large lorry off loading something by hoist - heavy load swinging across pavement ,off side wheels of delivery vehicle lifting from road and no one oversseing pedestrian safety . I couldn't understand why lorry didn't pull on to site ,but if it couldn't why was no one keeping an eye out for people ( family groups at bus stop ) to warn to keep away from this stretch ? and the pavement was certainely cracked and messed up. And yes I should have spoken to someone /reported it - but didn't, other things got in the way.

Yes of course ,they're carrying out work to the road - they must be either skiving or thieving materials and ripping off vulnerable people.

edited to remove traces of fit of pedantry

Not in any way defending selfish /illegal parking ,but I think often it's not so much that parents are using their cars to drive children to school ,but that they are on their way to work and drop children off before continuing their journey.

I think I'd like to see these sinusoidal humps - even if they only reduce the jarring that would be a result. Are there any around here ?

Thanks James . Sorry for not taking this into account . I thought the bend and the bendy buses exiting Etherow St slowed traffic down - but first to admit I'm no expert . I'm still not comvinced that it's sensible to have 2 different speed restrictions on this road.

James - re 20 mph limits Thanks for reply . But I don't really follow - understand you are frustrated at police not agreeing to trial average speed cameras. - don't understand much of the reasoning from police - has to involve trial runs of cars going at 100mph ? Presume this restricts average speed cameras to non residential roads ,maybe only motorways ? Northern end of Barry Rd has 40mph speed ? Which bit is that ? Gosh it's hard to know what the speed limits are on roads ! - don't understand why you are frustrated that Barry Rd currently has 30mph restriction throughout ? You haven't helped me at all in my struggle to understand why it might be sensible to have, as proposed, these two different speed limits on Barry Rd .Is the section to the south of Underhill Rd different in character from the bit to the north ?

What a shame that your expectations weren't met. Archive: Sinusiodal humps September 2nd, 2009 by James Barber However, one type of hump doesn?t seem to have this problem - sinusoidal humps. They?re curved like a wave. Not quite as effective at traffic calming as regular ?round topped? humps but boy are they more comfortable for vehicle occupants and safer for cyclists. With the executive councillor Paul Kyriacou agreement it is now Southwark Council policy that all new humps will be sinusoidal. I also expect when old humps get replaced during maintenance that they?ll be replaced with sinusoidal humps.

Can you post a link ?

Hi James - not really expecting you to understand my concerns on this but - 20mph consultation showed part of Barry Rd as already having a restriction - on stretch going north from junction with Underhill. I couldn't recall any speed signs here so queried it . Response confirmed that no 20mph limit is currently in place . The whole length of Barry Road is 30mph limit at present. The proposal includes introducing a 20mph speed limit on Barry Road from its junction with Lordship Lane to its junction with Underhill/Whateley Road .I do apologise for the confusion on the drawing. This seems odd ;I personally think Barry Rd should stay at 30mph ,but if there is to be a change ( and we all know that consultations aren't about acting on views expressed ) why change only a section of this road? And if you read the documentation sent you will be under the impression that the proposed change is to rectify a situation where Barry Rd is part 20mph and part 30 mph - you won't realise that in fact it's introducing this scenario. You're driving along at 30mph and when you reach the Underhill junction you suddenly switch to 20mph ? ( or vice versa ) . Can you make sense of this part of the proposal ? ( I know you've said that you've spent hours discussing this .) Incidentally I thought that Barry Rd looked as though it had a relatively low level of accidents,when compared to other roads , on the map that you posted . I could well be wrong - I found it hard to read ,so you may need to correct me .

Right ,ok ,here's the answer The whole length of Barry Road is 30mph limit at present. The proposal includes introducing a 20mph speed limit on Barry Road from its junction with Lordship Lane to its junction with Underhill/Whateley Road .I do apologise for the confusion on the drawing. Which then raises the question - what's the rationale behind a speed limit of 20mph on only part of Barry Rd. You're driving along at 30mph and when you reach the Underhill junction you suddenly switch to 20mph ? ( or vice versa ) And if you've not all dozed off yet - personally I think Barry Rd should be left at 30mph .

Mmm - well looking again at " consultation " doc ,I see that this stretch of Barry Rd marked yellow is described as " existing 20 mph zone road ". So I guess the answer will be ( when I ask Southwark ) that it's inside a 20mph zone - ie adjacent roads are 20mph restricted and signed. Gives the impression that this stretch is also restricted though - and I still can't see any speed restriction signs ,only " you're entering a residential area ,please drive carefully ".

I can't find anything on line ( that would be too simple I guess ) but contact details on doc that I have are Andres Antury 020 7525 5553 andres.antury@southwark.gov.uk On a different point - I'm probably a hopelessly inattentive driver ,but consultation doc shows Barry Rd going north from junction with Underhill as already being restricted to 20 mph. Am I alone in being surprised by this information ?

Oh wish I could be more helpful - if water coming from front path maybe call water board ? Definately phone landlady .

Ian ,you poor thing ! Is the flood in the flat you're leaving - if so can't you pass the problem on to someone else ? Or am I misunderstanding ? Rhetorical question ,don't reply - sure you have your hands full. Sending you positive thoughts for no more problems and a sress free move .

The girls were wearing purple and blue tartan skirts There is no purple or tartan in the uniform worn at Lord Harris's East Duwich Girl's Academy. http://www.hgaed.org.uk/index.php?page=info

I agree with Peckhamgatecrasher - it was outrageous yes ,but some of the workers do have mental health problems. Write to head office and wait for response.

the Lane would see the pavements four abreast with shoppers they still are aren't they?

I believe that speed humps reduce speed of traffic. Sadly they also make it virtually impossible for my 90 year old mother to be transported anywhere without jarring and causing pain to her back where she suffers from post herpetic shingles.

I do support the 20 mph proposal for side roads but I do have doubts about it working on Barry Rd.

Oh Pickle ,sounds awful - hopefully it's nearly all behind you now . Damzel - how's your little one ?

Just been looking at the letter from Southwark. 20 mph is fine with me ,though personally I find it quite a struggle to keep my speed from going above 20 to 22,25 mph. Letter says " 20 mph speed limits are only suitable where average speed limits are naturally low ( 24 mph or below ) ". I wonder if this average really does apply to vehicle speed on Barry Rd ,which I note is one of the roads to be included in the 20 mph restriction .

Not top of my list of worries - but illegal parking is dangerous and bad example. I presume that these cars are around to reduce illegal parking and speeding. But wouldn't they be more effective if their presence and purpose were advertised more widely.

Sean - these cars stay in situ for several hours ,they're not just parked for a few minutes while ticketing a car. They have chaps on mopeds for that. One parked in Bellenden this morning for over 3 hours . Think they're more to do with speeding - speed camera sign put up outside bank near Somerfield ,Lordship Lane yeaterday.

Oh it's just gone off . Heaven .