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Good point ,Abe .

Is it just me that doesn't understand the assertion that the CPZ will increase parking spaces ? "Eileen, at the drop in session last Saturday, Joanna told me that extending the double yellow lines as they have and turning the white lines at dropped curbs into extra long double yellow lines would increase parking in the CPZ by 40%." Where I live on Barry Rd as I look out of my window I can see 5 car parking spaces that would be removed by the proposed extension of double yellow lines either side of dropped curbs . And as there have been zero traffic incidents in the last 30 years at any of these dropped curbs I can see no rationale for extending waiting restrictions .

As Mark T has said the Barry Rd proposals for traffic calming need to be considered in conjuction with the CPZ proposals for that road . I don't know if the comments made at the drop in re Barry Rd are being taken into account and if a revised scheme will be presented ,but it would be useful to know whether the proposed traffic pillows are to be retained and what impact ,if any ,they will have on parking . FWIW I don't think it was a question of the representatives ( a Southwark engagement officer and staff from the consultancy agency ) denying knowledge of the CPZ .From answers to other questions ,they genuinely had no knowledge of the area - no clue that traffic pillows had been tried previously and removed because buses were unable to clear them ,no knowledge that the Barry Rd /Underhill Rd junction had seen several RTA ,no familiarity with local road names etc . More worringly there was an astonishing arrogance - when I asked whether TfL had been involved in the peoposals I was told that there was no need for this as Barry Rd was a road maintained by Southwark .

I often have similar thoughts about the cafe in Dulwich Park .

Where I live in Barry Rd parking is blissfully problem free . I know ,lucky us ,but we did choose to live where we live . The CPZ proposals will revoke that at a stroke by the removal of so many parking spaces. Double yellow lines across dropped curbs wiping out adjacent spaces and spaces in between 2 dropped curbs . Plus we'll have to pay .I would cough up the fee but not to facilitate making life more difficult .

onlyk - it's not just double yellow lines across the dropped curb ,they will extend either side . There are a couple of properties near me that have two dropped curbs currently with a large parking space inbetween them . The proposed extension of double yellow lines removes that parking space . No accidents have taken place with the current set up in the last 30 years . We all know they will do what they want .The consultation is just expensive window dressing designed to tick a box .

I don't understand why S'wark seem unable to organise more effective drop ins . I was so put off by the previous one I attended at Dulwich Library ( street calming ) that I didn't struggle (unwell today ) to get to this one . There is no mention of the traffic pillows proposed for Barry Rd ( at the above )on the current plans for a CPZ .My understanding is that such pillows will mean no parking either side and it seems odd not to integrate this with the current plans . Regardless of this, the proposed yellow lining of dropped curbs and their extension either side of the dropped curbs will significantly reduce parking spaces on Barry Rd . Can someone tell me whether some of the stretches of blue residents parking are replacing current yellow lines ?

Hi Admin - I see that 2 CPZ threads have been locked . The remaining CPZ thread has a title about the CPZ in roads off Lordship Lane and the discussion seems to be centred on how it will affect the shops in Lordship Lane ,plus some discussion of parking near the station . The area actually reaches from ED station to the Plough and from Greendales to Barry Rd and Peckham Rye Common .Lots of streets that could not be described as off LL. I did PM the OP of the LL thread to ask if the title could be ammended to indicate that the area is much wider than that indicated by the title . Why has the thread re the larger area of ED been locked ? If having 2 threads is deemed undesirable could the "streets off " title be ammended to indicate that it is discussing the whole ED CPZ inc the effect on the shops in LL ? The West Peckham CPZ is a different area altogether from the ED one and the subject of a seperate consultation ,it's not a duplication .Or is there another reason for it being locked ?

Drop in session re CPZ in East Dulwich tomorrow Sat 26th Push Studios 17 Blackwater St SE22 8RS Tomorrow ,Sat 26th 2pm to 5pm "come along and talk to officers"

Drop in session tomorrow Sat 26th Push Studios 17 Blackwater St SE22 8RS Tomorrow ,Sat 26th 2pm to 5pm "come along and talk to officers"

Thanks Huggers that's v helpful .

Can you tell me more Huggers ?

Thanks .

what does ESPH stand for ?

I moved from The Neighborhood Vet to Ellie in Norwood Rd ,Herne Hill . One of our cats has a skin problem which the NV were unable to resolve after many v expensive tests and a v expensive prescription .I was defeated by seeing a different person each time and by being given conflicting advice eg bath skin with salt water v.absolutely don't do that . Ellie is marvellous and sorted our cat out immediately .

Thanks for this Pugwash . I'm plagued by tinnitus and hearinmg loss so any pointers will be gratefully received .

So sorry everyone missed the fact that the clinic was a chiropractioner in Crystal Palace Rd .

Not sure I quite understand tash b's post but ...it's more than a 5min walk from Barry Rd ( say from the junction with Silvester) to The Neighborhood Vets and Barry Rd is one of the roads where a CPZ is being considered .

I live on Barry Rd and I don't see people having trouble finding places to park .Of course it's a long road and there may be pressure on spaces at the north end near Peckham Rye . I am concerned however by the proposal to restrict parking by having yellow lines across all existing dropped curbs and extending each side . This will remove a number of spaces .

I'm inclined to agree RahRah ,I particularly grieve the replacement of a planted space with a hard surface and a vehicle .Especially when accompanied by wheelie bins displaced on to the pavement .

What is this consultation pack that people are referring to ? Is it a hard copy delivered through the letterbox ? How can I get a hard copy of the plans ? Does seem a very short consultation period .And only ONE drop in session for non business people ? I see that where there are existing dropped curbs giving access to forecourt parking new double yellow lines are proposed extending across the dropped curb and either side of the access . Presumably to aid vision .And decreasing parking . Does anyone know the measurement being used to determine the extent of restricted parking either side ?

Eileen that is very helpful indeed and I shall do as suggested and email. I'm not bold enough to reproduce a copy here but if someone could I think that would be a good idea to encourage others .

TFL on twitter ( thank you for posting ElliottW ) say "The section of Copeland Road near the junction of Sandling Close we are unable to site a temporary stop because there is not enough space so if we had three buses serve the stop at the same time which is highly likely then there is a zebra crossing as well as that it is on a bend in the road. So if a bus stops at the temporary stop another vehicle will overtake it and there is highly risk that there would be a head on collision with another vehicle heading in the opposite direction. As well as that you may have a vehicle and pedestrian incident because the zebra crossing is so close. Also there is a tree which needed to be cut back to accommodate the buses." Concerns about the zebra crossing do seem valid ,possibly also the overtaking factor . Maybe the risk assessment has become more stringent since the last diversion .

Bic Basher - some of the buses will stop on Copeland Rd near Bournemouth Rd if you ring the bell .But annoyingly it seems to be at the drivers discretion . If I knew who to approach to formalise this I would .Anyone know ?

Agree with your analysis Blah Blah though you seem a little sanguine . Personally I worry that there will be a serious accident ( might even involve a car and a pedestrian ) before the works move further along the road . At 10 weeks a section this is going to leave ample time . I'm no expert in road/traffic management but I hope someone who is has a look at the situation and takes appropriate action .