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South London just doesn't fare well with music venues that would attract decent bands. If, by decent, you mean pulling crowds of hundreds rather than dozens


When teh Mean Fiddler org was in it's pomp and owned most of the small to mid-level venues in London they bought The Clapham Grand and REALLY pushed it - but without a tube people just don't do it enough sadly


Even if all that didn't matter, physically there is nowhere suitable is there? What was the Odeon site possibly but that's too late


This is all toying with my drams anyway - stop it. The thought of a venue where I didn't have to travel miles home afterwards is too much

I think people are talking about a small pub-style venue... maybe 100 capacity max. But even then, it would struggle in ED with it's below-par public transport.


On the other hand... a tube would be great, but I have no desire to see the property prices rocket yet further!

I remember the days of the Clapham Grand Sean and it was a great venue. Saw The Fall there and a recharged Dr Feelgood before Lee Brilleaux sadly snuffed it. I suppose I could dream too. For instance The Capitol in Forest Hill (dread Weatherspoons that it is now) used to be a cinema/theatre that played host to the likes of the Stones and the Who in the early 60s and I can't see why that can't be revived as a venue for bands. Or then again where the police station is. Knock it down and we'll have a little place like the Camden Underworld, that'd do me.

Android17 Wrote:

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> Independent Cinema with a bar. Nothing too huge,

> 4 maybe 5 screens.


Would one not be sufficient? It would show the latest release twice a day and then some indie flick at other times.

I played the Clapham Grand a couple of times, but it's too big to be a small venue, and vice versa. We flogged loads of tickets, as did the other bands, but there was no way we'd get a couple of thousand in there, so it still seemed pretty empty. However, it's not really big enough to attract big names. Shame, as it is a good place.


Something the size of the half moon, or the amersham arms would be a good start.

Could do with a bookshop where it's comfortable to browse, where staff appear interested, where it's possible to sit and sip a good coffee and even maybe eat a cake or two.


A cross between the two Dulwich bookshops (One in the Village proper and one on the strip in West Dulwich) and Chandelier. If they also had a decent selection of DVDs (ideally including classic films), music and instruments for sale and evening events such as poetry readings, discussions and live music it would be near perfect. I would / could waste a lot of time and spend a lot of money in such a place.

A record & cd store. Don't think we've ever had one!! Except when the electrical shop at the Plough used to sell a few 7" many many many moons ago. I know we are in the age of the download now but there is nothing like holding an album & popping it in a cd player or on a record player. :))

yes, a record & cd store, a second hand bookstore that has comfy armchairs, with various teas/coffees and lovely treats! A few more decent restaurants that doesnt serve Indian or pubfood, an independent cinema, bicyle store, have more frequent P13 buses...oh and an intalian gelato shop!!


... that's what i want for christmas

It would be nice if the library had a lounge/coffee-bar area. Imagine access to 1000s of books, a comfortable armchair, good coffee (or tea or whatever), and a view of the garden. I could spend days loosing myself in useless information. Some wicker chairs outside would be nice for summer too and give me somewhere to smoke.

there's the music stand on northcross road market - mainly dub though, but some good stuff second hand and new


i actually tried peckham cinema and it ISNT that bad! it's certainly cheap and i didnt head anyone taking calls!

the big pub in dulwich village also has a film club .. crown and greyhound??

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