Flightpaths over ED

[Only me!]

Ultimately we were quieter for the last few days simply because the wind is from the North East/East rather than from the West & so the Heathrow planes are not approaching to land via East London.

The lower stuff, which is relatively quiet, is from London City & has to stay under the Heathrow flightpath. Unfortunately, even when It's not being used. But they seems to come over ED whatever the wind is doing!

Agree about the noise though, noticing it got noticeably worse after 7/11 when the flight paths over London were changed leaving one of the main stacks to feed into the final approach right over us.

[lenk]

Not In My Back Yard, I say.

[SteveT]

When BA were on strike over the foodmakers, East Dulwich was a quiet village, I loved that strike, listening to the songbirds throughout the few days it lasted.

[lenk]

SteveT Wrote:

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> When BA were on strike over the foodmakers, East

> Dulwich was a quiet village, I loved that strike,

> listening to the songbirds throughout the few days

> it lasted.

'village'

You work at foxton's AICM ?5

[johnx]

I'm in Berkshire, not ED, so at the other end of the flight paths. We get the noise, especially landings when the wind is easterly and they change the approach, starting about 4:40am. We close windows, and I sometimes use ear plugs, it doesn't prevent me waking up - they often go right over our house - it's loud and making me ill. We've been here for years and it didn't used to be this bad but I can't get BAA to admit anything has changed. We are affected by more flights and I'm sure they are flying lower. The EU limits are useless and their averaging is absurd it must have been designed for the airlines, not for people. We should be curtailing expansion AND reducing noise, for everyone. I wonder how many of the decision makers suffer from this, I think I know.

[matthew123]

Great, now we have low flying planes over east dulwich at midnight..

[chantelle]

i don't want to hear this! we are moving to ED from Oval, where the planes are so bloody noisy and constant and i wake every morning at 4:30, even with ear plugs. have also noticed the very late night ones lately, after 11pm. sounds like i am just moving a little further east along the same flight path(s). had hoped maybe we'd get lucky and get off the paths. :(

[Gimme]

Might sound stupid but I've managed to deal with the plane issue for me.

I used to get really annoyed and would wake up at 4.30am and stay awake fuming.

I'd the impression that all the Heathrow planes were going over our house.

After complaining to Heathrow on their website, I got an excellent pack of information showing all the flight paths and where all the Heathrow flights go on their way in.

So after realising that all of South London (with the exception of Balham and Tooting it seems!!!) is plagued by flights going to Heathrow, I stopped getting worked up about it and don't notice them that often any more. And not getting worked up has meant that I ignore them at 4.30am.

I'm not saying it is great having flights over the house all the time, especially when we're in the garden and a noisy twin engine plane goes over but it's a lot easier to deal with since I stopped getting annoyed about it (particularly since there's nothing we can do about it!!!).

If you want more information about flights over S London, there's a flight tracker on the Heathrow website or just send an email complaint saying "why do all the planes go over my house" and you might feel easier about the whole thing.

[Michael Palaeologus]

In the good olds days Concord flew over every evening, you couldnt ignore that.

[lenk]

earplugs

[????]

don't eat mange tout in December and never fly anywhere....then moan

[Jeremy]

I never, ever hear the planes. Even when I'm outside, I barely notice them. I don't think there's anything wrong with my hearing...

[????]

pardon?

*sniggers like a schoolboy*

[OutOfFocus]

Michael Palaeologus Wrote:

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> In the good olds days Concord flew over every

> evening, you couldnt ignore that.

In the very good olds days Concorde was spelt Concord

[matthew123]

From wikipedia

The aircraft was initially referred to in Britain as "Concorde," with the French spelling, but was officially changed to "Concord" by Harold Macmillan in response to a perceived slight by Charles de Gaulle. In 1967, at the French roll-out in Toulouse the British Government Minister for Technology, Tony Benn announced that he would change the spelling back to "Concorde."[7] This created a nationalist uproar that died down when Benn stated that the suffixed "e" represented "Excellence, England, Europe and Entente (Cordiale)." In his memoirs, he recounts a tale of a letter from an irate Scotsman claiming: "you talk about 'E' for England, but part of it is made in Scotland." Given Scotland's contribution of providing the nose cone for the aircraft, Benn replied "it was also 'E' for '?cosse' (the French name for Scotland) ? and I might have added 'e' for extravagance and 'e' for escalation as well!"

[charliecharlie]

[quote name=So after realising that all of South London (with the exception of Balham and Tooting it seems!!!) is plagued by flights going to Heathrow' date=' I stopped getting worked up about it and don't notice them that often any more. And not getting worked up has meant that I ignore them at 4.30am.

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does not being annoyed with the planes mean you slepp through them... I am always woken by them and have to get up and close all the window so I can get back to sleep...

pain in the arsse, I say

[ruthmct]

> closed threadRe: air traffic new

> Posted by: Miss Tipsy Topple Yesterday, 04:16PM

> I agree, just seen a bright red helicopter fly by my window, it looks as though it was landing in Peckham Rye.

> A helicopter (or what sounded like one) also woke me up in the early hours this morning.

That's most likely the air ambulance from the Royal London Hospital. See www.londonsairambulance.com

Ruth

[Michael Palaeologus]

Last night, 10.30ish - maybe a tad later; a jet flew rather low north east over ED, seemed a rather odd time, height and direction.

[sambobia]

Have the flight paths around ED changed of late? Throughout July we've had a constant stream of jumbos looping over our house to join the main heathrow landing queue, which also seems much closer. Up to July, we mainly had the smaller and much less noisy City airport planes.

Is it permanent? Anyone know?

[danb]

Yes, the planes have been much worse through July and so far this month, particularly early morning, making it impossible to sleep. Hope it's not permanent.

[EDmummy]

I heard that plane as well, Michael. I thought it might be a military plane as it did not seem on a regular flight path and sounded very low.

[MrBen]

I've been kept up most of the night by the insonsiderate F&&&&&&* that has been flying his helicopter over my house for the past 15 hours.

Anyone got any idea why? I'll be taking an RPG to it shortly.....

[andyjg]

Anyone hear a helicopter flying around again last night? Didn't check the time but I'd guess it was somewhere between 2-4am. It was definitely still dark out.

Felt like it was flying around for bl**dy ages!

[woodie]

not a vapour trail in the sky yesterday, not a hum, roar or de acceleration whirr.

bliss. Hope you're all enjoying the sky right now. Aluminium free peaceful and gorgeous.

[katgod]

I am loving it, especially the fact that small children do not wake up at 4.20 at the moment. I am amazed that the media coverage is all so negative, have not heard or read a single item about the benefits of there being a no fly zone. I know it is unrealistic to have it permanently, but having one Sunday a month flight free would be lovely.