Life expectancy in East Dulwich and Nunhead (Lounged)

[macroban]

On page 23 of Southwark PCT's consultation document - "Transforming Southwark's NHS" - it says "Life expectancy varies within Dulwich, with Nunhead having a lower than average life expectancy".

I'm surprised.

What causal factors are there among the Nunhead population to distinguish it from that of East Dulwich?

[languagelounger]

Ceaseless toil and grinding poverty.

[SeanMacGabhann]

the ciggies can't help either

[languagelounger]

Or, could it be that Southwark Council knowingly let its cemeteries manager continue with a cosy little arrangement to dump toxic waste in the cemeteries which surround us, for pushing, what 15 years plus? Carcinogens, asbestos, and was that aromatic hydrocarbons?

Anyone for leukemia, a range of lovely cancers, MS, lupus, sjorgren's, RA etc, etc?

[SeanMacGabhann]

nope - I'm going with cigarettes

Interesting allegations about southwark council tho. Knowingly??

Not a lot of news on this one but from the local press

[dulwichmum]

I think that it must be a combination of grinding poverty, squalor and the ready availability of fabulous buns and confectionary. I hold the proprieters of Ayres the bakers partly responsible. Shame on them...

[languagelounger]

Knowingly. They were shown photographs of huge mounds of dumped waste and asked, both verbally and in writing, how exactly it came to be that the person driving the dumper had the key to the council's own lock to the site. They took no action. They refused to even listen to a highly regarded independent expert who offered to address them on how to properly manage their cemeteries. When local people organised their own meeting for that person to talk to the public, Connor, the cemeteries manager, and his boss, one Keith Weir, came to the meeting organised by the public, and Weir was witnessed threatening the independent expert with violence. The witness was a South London Press reporter, it was in the SLP at the time.

That was years ago.

Personally, I shall be refusing to pay the rise in council tax that they will want to dump on us too, to fund the clearance. These costs must be met by the councillors and officers who allowed it to continue.

We also need a full independent epidemiological study of the population who have used the cemeteries, as they were urged to by the Council, for "leisure".

[benmorg]

Ayres bakery's sausage rolls have a lot to answer for.

[bigbadwolf]

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> the ciggies can't help either

I agree. The fuller the ashtray the lower the income.

[Mikecg]

Bigbadwolf wrote,

I agree. The fuller the ashtray the lower the income.

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What a load of old bollox.

This lot have got or have had a few quid. If I die from a smoking related disease, atleast I would have paid for treatment from the gargantuan tax I have paid over the years, oh and I wont need my nappy changed when I'm 90.

http://www.jusonline.nl/smokers/

[PeckhamRose]

There are a lot of (or appear to be a lot of ) shelters for homeless people, and homes for disabled people, in Nunhead. Whilst not all disabled people are likely to die earlier than able-bodied, I know some disabilities carry with them a lower life expectancy. So given the above, statistically maybe it is going to be the case.

And I see more people smoking in Nunhead than in Lordship Lane!

[honk]

I'd put it down to higher average wage in ED meaning more people able to afford a concubine to blow strawberry-scented oxygen into their ailing lungs if they so wanted, which pushes the life-expectancy right up. Not rocket science.

[????]

East Dulwich has several immortals which pushes up the average?

[vinceayre]

A note from the owners of Ayres the Bakers.

I refute all suggestions of mass murder.

I know for a fact that neither I nor my ancestors have killed any of our customers by selling them fabulous buns and cakes because i have often asked them whether they are dead and they have catagorically said no.

Dulwichmum cannot know much about our shop as I do not believe she has ever paid less than ?5.00 for a loaf of bread so would have no idea what a proper bakers is.

For the sausage rolls I offer no defence.

So there!!

ps: DM I would have added a link to your UberBlog but dont know how.

[SteveT]

Honk wrote:- I'd put it down to higher average wage in ED meaning more people able to afford a concubine to blow strawberry-scented oxygen into their ailing lungs if they so wanted, which pushes the life-expectancy right up.

Were I to beget a strawbery scented concubine I don't expect 'BLOWING' oxygen would be the first job I'd have in mind.

[Brendan]

To quote David Mitchell in yesterday?s Observer, ??I'm against death. Although I suppose I haven't fully thought through the consequences if people didn't. [die]?

[Moos]

vinceayre Wrote:

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> A note from the owners of Ayres the Bakers.

>

> I refute all suggestions of mass murder.

> I know for a fact that neither I nor my ancestors

> have killed any of our customers by selling them

> fabulous buns and cakes because i have often asked

> them whether they are dead and they have

> catagorically said no.

> Dulwichmum cannot know much about our shop as I do

> not believe she has ever paid less than ?5.00 for

> a loaf of bread so would have no idea what a

> proper bakers is.

> For the sausage rolls I offer no defence.

>

> So there!!

>

> ps: DM I would have added a link to your UberBlog

> but dont know how.

Hee hee! A funny baker of fabulous confectionary ... have we found the perfect man?

[Dez]

Life expectancy varies within Dulwich

Surely that applies everywhere

[Brendan]

Yes it all depends on what part of Dulwich you are in. For instance the life expectancy of someone in an Edwardian town house in the village is on average considerably more than that of someone on the track at East Dulwich Station. It is these sorts of social inequalities that we need to address.

[SteveT]

Brendan you made me lol.

Good man:))

[SimonM]

I have to say there are far worse ways to go than by consuming a surfeit of Ayre's most excellent saausage rolls.....and now I feel peckish!

[Jeremy]

Do they actually have proper sausagemeat in them, or is it Greggs-style pink mush?

[SimonM]

lovely peppery brown meat not pink - and gorgeous light pastry...mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm (I should get a month's free supply for this, hint, hint)

[bigbadwolf]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Do they actually have proper sausagemeat in them,

> or is it Greggs-style pink mush?

I thought it was all the offal from stem cell research.

[benmorg]

It's brownish pink mush in the sausage rolls. If you buy them late in the day then the base will have hardened into what can only be described as scalding grease-filled cardboard.

The bread is a different matter though. It really is much better than anything in sainsburys or the East Dulwich baker. Sainsbury's bread tastes revolting and stale after you've tried the loaves from Ayres.