Attack in Surrey Canal, Peckham (Lounged)

[Michael Palaeologus]

No Sean, it is always. You are a one-man United Nations Peace Keeping Force, but one that works.

You would suit a powder-blue beret I think.

[dulwichmum]

But I was being serious boys... Lets built a big partition!

[bigbadwolf]

Sounds like a lucky escape. When I was younger I used to deliver pizzas for Forest hill Pizza hut and we used to get attacked regularly. Especially in Lower Sydenham and Catford.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Henceforth he shall be known as Sean Sean MacGabhann

[ratty]

jonsuissy Wrote:

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> Thanks Sean

> The link is banned at work.

> Though from what you are implying she is meant to

> be funny - so perhaps what I am missing is a sense

> of humour?

> Is it funny?

> Jon

Yes it is! Hope this is helpful!

[jonsuissy]

Oh no its not!

[Louisa]

Sean, I grew up in Peckham as you know, so I have the right to call it a grotty dive if I wish to, especially considering the changes i've seen the area undergo. I think it is a terrible shame people cannot go about their daily lives without being assaulted or attacked just because Peckham is allowed to exist in it's current form without anyone wanting to do something about it. Whenever people mention it from the council it is refered to as a "vibrant" place, almost like it is somewhere people actually want to spend time! It has been ruined beyond recognition and government after government who has allowed it to happen should be damn well ashamed of themselves. I notice the good old met dont mind sending these powerless community support officers to roam the leafy suburbs, but oh no you wouldnt see one walking down Rye Lane after dark would you? (come to think of, apart from around the station, when did I last see a copper in Peckham?)

Louisa.

[bigbadwolf]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Sean, I grew up in Peckham as you know, so I have

> the right to call it a grotty dive if I wish to,

> especially considering the changes i've seen the

> area undergo. I think it is a terrible shame

> people cannot go about their daily lives without

> being assaulted or attacked just because Peckham

> is allowed to exist in it's current form without

> anyone wanting to do something about it. Whenever

> people mention it from the council it is refered

> to as a "vibrant" place, almost like it is

> somewhere people actually want to spend time! It

> has been ruined beyond recognition and government

> after government who has allowed it to happen

> should be damn well ashamed of themselves. I

> notice the good old met dont mind sending these

> powerless community support officers to roam the

> leafy suburbs, but oh no you wouldnt see one

> walking down Rye Lane after dark would you? (come

> to think of, apart from around the station, when

> did I last see a copper in Peckham?)

>

> Louisa.

Well said Louisa!

[SeanMacGabhann]

Judging by how much you hate the place Louisa it's doubtful you would see any coppers there as yuo are never there

But I do know where you are coming from and I understand your angle. You have personally witnessed an area change it's DNA practically. And it is an area with massive crime problems. I'm not trying to deny that or your right to complain about it.

But I am trying to say that beyond that there IS a vibrancy that you don't get elsewhere. Many people on here have testified to walking around the area at night for many years and people get attacked in all sorts of neighborhoods. The cycle paths where attacks have been documented many times exist over a wide area. I don't have the solution to those problems but given all that, I frequent Peckham a fair bit. probably 2 or 3 times a week I'm on Rye Lane doing a bit of food shopping or bar-hopping. or cinema going. I have met good people down there. If the area is to regenerate and "change" as you decribe it will need people with money to stay there, or move there. Several factors discourage that and one of them is people (be it you, the media or whoever) OVERSTATING the case against it.

I'm not saying what you are saying is incorrect. And plenty of people feel as you do. But it is a somewhat slanted view.

I just moved house recently and was days away from living just off Rye Lane. Problems with existing property in SE22 meant we had to hold off and in the meantime that house went - but otherwise I would be living slap bang in what you are so negative about. it would be my home. And I would take even less kindly to soemone badmouthing it whilst I was trying to do my bit

[Mikecg]

Things have been done to improve it, North Peckham Estate has been regenerated and they have spent money to a point. However you cant polish a turd......

There is a problem with poverty in the area, drugs and drivebys stabbings and robberies, other than that is not too bad really.

[Ted Max]

However you cant polish a turd......

Goodness me. Perhaps you'd like to pop into the local schools and give the pupils the harsh truth, Mikecg.

[Mikecg]

No, I think I'll leave it to the wonderful Harriet Harmon.

[Louisa]

lol Mikecg, love your quote and your Harriet Harman comment!

Louisa spat her coffee all over the carpet!

Louisa.

[Mikecg]

In all seriousness, there is a problem there, I've been there at three in the morning and it is a scary place to be at that time. To be honest the way I view the place at night is,

****AVOID****

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Wuss

[Mikecg]

I would rather be a wuss than a dead statistic. I have had a few close shaves over the years, and self defence can get you a life sentance.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Sorry, this IS the same Peckham that I walked thru' at 3.00AM/4.00AM in the early 1970's as a late Teenager,without a care in the World.

I must have done that late walk 50 times,at least...and that was the "Peckham" of "Five Estates" infamy including The North Peckham.

There was never a suggestion that anyone did have it infamy:-$

Area must have changed somewhat, and it WAS vibrant then,still is.

Shame.

Obviously was a Middle-Class Area back in The 1940's/1950's.

Can you positively imagine My Darlings:)

[*Bob*]

Mikecg Wrote:

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> There is a problem with poverty in the area, drugs

> and drivebys stabbings and robberies, other than

> that is not too bad really.

Sounds great! When can I move in?

[Mark]

Are you a time machine salesman Tony? You keep harping on about this good old time 30 years ago without mentioning how we can get back to that great era.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Mark Wrote:

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> Are you a time machine salesman Tony? You keep

> harping on about this good old time 30 years ago

> without mentioning how we can get back to that

> great era.

No! The 1960's WERE THE great London era!

World Leaders in Fashion/Music/Photography/Theatre, maybe Art as well.

Things go in cycles, so who knows.

Anyway most Ex-Peckham,Camberwell,Kennington,Walworth Residents have recreated that time but changed location to Welling/Bexley/Sidcup..so much so that,recently, Walworth School in the heart of Southwark had a Re-Union of Old Schoolboys in Bexley Village as most of them had moved out lived within a 6 mile Radius of there.

There's no doubt that 70%+ of The people living on the outskirts of South London are from Inner South London originally.

Either they moved or their Parents did from Inner London.

Inner London is still very vibrant, but certainly different and nowhere near as safe Mark.

[Mikecg]

*Bob*

Your post reminded me of coming to America with Eddie Murphy, "Is your appartment poor" "It's a real sh!thole you'll love it" Ha!....

[INDOMIE]

This is what I posted on the SE1 forum a while back - 'Cycle Jacking' is becoming a real problem and there's not much we can do about it as far as I can see!

http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/99538

[honk]

ed_pete Wrote:

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> If you're not confident going down there as

> someone says use the 63 route, but if someone's

> going to take you off your bike they're going to

> do it anywhere.

>

> Rubbish - the reason they use the Surrey Canal is

> because (a) it's darker and therefore easier to

> hide, (b) they're less likely to get caught and

> © it's regularly used by cyclists. I don't

> imagine the same group go about knocking cyclists

> off their bikes on the Walworth Road for example.

OK, so you've deduced why a bunch of undesirables might hang around in dark, secluded spots.

If dark, secluded spots aren't your thing, then avoid them.

If the only way someone is going to separate you from your bike is by them prising open your cold, dead hands, then as you were.

Next thread.

[honk]

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> jon

>

> Well there is a question! I think so but I know

> others that don't. I think an exaggerated version

> of the stereotypical Dulwich Village-living,

> high-earning-partner-marrying, lady of lunch who

> has no concept of reality beyond her provileged

> borders is ripe for humour and I think she hits

> the target as often as not

>

> But if casual readers of the forum don't know

> that, then it just appears crass and offensive

> which I think is a shame

After all this time, it makes sense.

A 'comedy' character.

How wonderful.

Neil Boorman you are not.

[dulwichmum]

Sweet Mr Honk,

Indeed I am not Neil Boorman, and nor would I ever want to be. OHMYGOD! He writes for The Guardian (it's not for everyone darling...) he has fluffy facial stubble and his Human League hair do is frightfully last year.