Jeremy

Would agree there... the food is pretty run-of-the mill, and the refurbishment is very basic (cheap furniture, etc). But the lunch menu is reasonable value, I may possibly return for that.

Metal one minute, then a spot of jazz, followed by Public Enemy, and then the Rolling Stones. They have some good beers too.

The other one was/is in Tunbridge Wells... I went there once. He was actually pretty funny for a while, but the joke wore thin after about 1 minute. Food was diabolical, and not cheap. The one on Old Kent Rd is now a Nepalese place.

Do you have cats, Margaret?

How he makes it, nobody knows! bit of a strange limerick this one...

There once was a geezer from Lima who drove a round in a snazzy black Beamer He kept it well polished...

Herbal remedies are totally different to "spiritual" treatments... they are both sometimes labelled as "alternative" or "complimentary", but that's where the similarity ends. Citizen: The gender issue is an interesting one - perhaps men are less open to new ideas which are outside the realm of science, I really don't know! But in my case, open cynicism towards certain beliefs doesn't mean I wish to protect those people... it's more of a curiosity as to how these beliefs are spread. As for Monica's parting shot... yes I agree, if we lead stressful or unhealthy lifestyles then that needs to be addressed. Make more time for yourself and your family... take more exercise... change your diet... pills are not an appropriate substitute, but neither is reiki.

There once was a Limerick Master called Asset Whose rhyme you couldn't fault it was classic The verses did flow The pace fast not slow But the rhymes could be somewhat phallic Thanks for that Asset, I was really struggling there!

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: > But you never did answer my allegation that road > rage incidents between drivers also account for > injuries and fatalities. You can always just lock your car door or drive away if some nutter gets out of his car and starts screaming at you! And at least there won't be a group of 15 yr old wannabe gangstas sitting next to you, listening to bad music on their phones.

fractionater Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As a scientific man I'm surprised that Dwarkin > didn't draw parallels with the Quantum Physics > princinpal whereby observing an experiment can > affect its outcome As I understand it, the effects of quantum mechanics are only really relevant on an atomic scale. It certainly doesn't scale to things like cats (as in Schrodinger's famous metahpor), or a person sitting in a room observing a patient. > since we have no Scientific understanding of the > actual Scientific processes involved during some > of these alternative methods then how can we > accurately measure them and draw conclusions with > our current limited understanding? I would have thought it is fairly easy to test whether a remedy actually works... ie a double-blind trial. Why should certain practises be exepmt from this? > If more scientific research were carried out in > these areas then we'd all be better informed. That would be an excellent idea, do you think many practitioners would volunteer for it? > Trying to debunk something based on current > understanding is wrong....just like the world used > to be flat! Yes, everybody believed that the earth was flat, until it was proved otherwise... which I think is fair enough. Similarly many of us will remain unconvinced by certain new-age healing practises, voodoo, magic, god, etc until there is some sort of proof.

AB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Surely tandoori nights is far better than > "bog-standard" - just wish it was a bit bigger. Yes - Tandoori Nights is the exception, the food there is very nice! Still not tried the Ganapti (sp?) over in Peckham though...

What changes are happening at the Hob? I really like that place... probably more than most of the ED pubs.

Keef, it's not really about being smug, it's about standing up for something you believe in. Just as MadWorld defends alternative healing, or a priest/rabbi/etc would defend their faith... if someone strongly believes that these things are invalid, or even harmful to mankind, then why shouldn't they speak up? For the record I'm not saying that I believe all alternative/complimentary medicine to be claptrap, I have varying levels of scepticism for the different incarnations.

"western medicine does serve a purpose to humankind (but it does not get to the root of the problem)" That's a sweeping generalisation, and in many cases, not accurate. "So if you negative thoughts can affect your physical body then why cannot reiki healing, affirmations, visualisations or meditation, massage also serve a purpose in assisting you to good health if the person is wanting and believing in change" This sounds awfully close to admission of the placebo affect.

To be fair I think this incident was fairly isolated, it's not often you hear of this sort of trouble on the train. The bus on the other hand... that's a whole different kettle of fish.

I didn't actually see this - but I think Richard Dawkins is spot on most of the time. He puts his belief firmly in science, and refuses to believe things which cannot be explained or reliably observed. And he has no time for people who blindly believe what they're told, without questioning it or seeking evidence. Frankly I would expect nothing else from a scientist. His condescending tone does tend to detract from his message, which is a shame because it prevents it from reaching those who could benefit most from what he has to say.

West Dulwich... is there actually anything there expect Cafe Rouge and The Rosendale? Oh, and of course, the tip!

I don't really know what "safe" clothing is. And I don't see any evidence to support the assumption that bankers would be especially likely to shop there. However, I agree that it does look a little out of place... but maybe it won't if a couple more clothes shops open up. You never know.

Me too... rented a flat from Foxtons a few years ago - they were always trying to rip off both myself and the landlord, with unjustifiable fees and fines as a matter of company policy. I would never, ever deal with them again. Most of the people who moved to East Dulwich in recent times are here because they liked the individuality of the area. Many of us don't necessarily want "large corporate investment". And I certainly don't want to see their vulgar cars, pink shirts, and smug faces every time I walk down Lordship Lane.

James Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What I don't get is why North Dulwich is > south-west of East Dulwich. Yes, North Dulwich station is south-west of East Dulwich station. But then, East Dulwich station is just barely in East Dulwich... it's right on the Camberwell border. innit.

Most of the curry places in ED are totally bog-standard (and I considered my one and only meal at the much-hyped Surma to be rather poor). Chain or not, if it offers improved quality it will be welcome!

Macroban - what do you know?

Calm down children. I would personally say that there's more to a good burger that fried meat in a bun. i.e. qualilty of meat, seasoning, sauce(s), salad, quality of bread. But at the end of the day, pub grub is what it is. I would also say that there's nothing intrinsically wrong with rose wine (although it wouldn't be my first choice).

I've moaned about the Castle before, but to be honest there's rarely any serious trouble (although there was one mass brawl this year which broke out onto the streets). In the context of some other areas I've lived in, I wouldn't really call it a rough pub.

Yes, the old shootings/respect debate... one of the great conundrums of our time.