Spartacus

Blah blah, wait till fines for LTN infringements start piling up. Still that's one way of reducing car usage, send in the bailiffs to seize the cars from people who accidently go into one of the new gated streets so that they will never ever do it again ! 😱 Shhhssss nobody suggest this to council officers 🤔

Kings won't email due to "data protection issues" yet guys and St Thomas will send a text that allows you to enter validation information on a website and when validated you can download your appointment letters. Not sure Kings are using the best excuse as data protection can obviously not be the reason as other trusts can get around the issue !

I just got a letter with a hospital appointment for the 6th Jan (it's over a week after that date) yet on Monday I got a letter cancelling the same appointment due to the covid situation .... I do wonder how many people missed appointments or attended cancelled ones due to postal problems?

That's fine Steven Just remember to sit atop a rocket before lighting the blue touch paper to get the full effect. No good being a tw@t unless others can enjoy the spectacle oh and get a friend to video it and post it on here too will you, there's a sweetie

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Only the innocent get caught ? > What - entrapment is it ? I think that it's sarcasm as in "I innocently only stopped for a moment on a double yellow line to ...." Entrapment -yes, the council have purposely painted double yellow lines where they know people stop just to generate revenue 😱

That's really useful advice pugwash Thank you for posting as it must be fecking awkward for hearing impaired people trying to understand what's being said through a mask.

Two wrights made an airplane (Sorry couldn't resist)

It also leads to a moral question of who is most vulnerable ? Is it as the cat theorises, an 85 Year old who stays at home,or is it a 55 asthmatic who needs to go to work to feed his family? Both are equally at risk of dying should they catch covid and johnl said , it's about protecting lives not transmission yet surly by reducing transmission you also protect the vulnerable ! I agree, it's not a decision I would like to make or be responsible for and it's interesting to see various groups standing up to say "we should be vaccinated first to protect service a , b or c" Which do you draw first ? Health care workers , care Home workers, dustman, postie , Teachers, border staff, police officers, transport providers (bus, tube, taxi) and where do you stop and say you are not in the required group ? That could lead to people feeling forgotten. It's a tough one, but thankfully unlike the Spanish flu pandemic a century ago, modern science has given us vaccines and opportunities to have debates of this ilk !

There was a restaurant a few years ago (St John seems to be in my mind) that had squirrel on the menu. I have seen that Native in borough also had a squirrel Lasagna on its menu last year. Maybe during this covid and panic buying period we could all forage for natural meats ... squab is another option (if only my neighbours cat hadn't got them all first) 😱😅

Amazing amount of information But as said earlier rather than going down the "report them and bite the hands that feed us route" the first point of call should be to talk to the owners / manager and express your concerns. If there is no change of behavior within a reasonable time frame (say 24 hours , not 24 seconds) then escalation is an option.

Whilst it's a serious subject, For some reason I keep on seeing the thread about a dog in the sandpit and think it's title is the start of a classic music hall type joke /forum/read.php?5,2177559 There is a prize of being allowed to drink a pint in a pub for whoever comes up with the best punchline to "A mum had her dog in the sandpit at Peckham Park today seriously!"

Mops Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Slightly amazed we didn?t make this list when I?m > only just receiving letters which were sent first > class during the first week of December... > > Royal Mail lists areas hit by Covid postal delays > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55591063 I agree But if we're not in the list then how bad are things in the areas that are on the list ?

Agreed kk but sadly not all humans like to do what is considered sensible, so the market has utilised an ancient law to protect people from themselves.

Thanks ianr That's the page .. sorry everyone else ..

https://www.southwarknews.co.uk/news/borough-market-forces-shoppers-to-wear-masks-outside-under-obscure-1829-law/?cmpredirect=&s=09

Abe_froeman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How many of them came from the unwashed hordes of > North Cross Road and how many from all of the rest > of Southwark? Interesting question Akin to how many who attended the market this,weekend are asymptomatic ? Answer : nobody knows

Morrison's are leading the way but will this cause more non compliance in smaller shops if the anti masker can't get toilet rolls / baked beans from Morrison's ? BBC News - Coronavirus: Morrisons to ban shoppers who refuse to wear face masks https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55618408

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 2 - 3 Houses on my Road Badly Damaged by Tree > roots involving expensive repair jobs. > > Trees need to be more than 15 feet asway from any > building. > > Bigger trees should be further away.. > > Apart from damage caused by roots, as trees grow > they block out a lot of light. > > If you want to see trees.. go to the Park. > > Foxy You are in a cheerful mood today foxy ?

I saw a long dialogue on twitter today (and I know I'm using social media as an information source) that talked about a supermarket manager who experiences similar problems when customers don't wear masks. The person talked about how they get abuse, despite offering masks to said customers and also how they patrolled the aisles to monitor compliance. However they went on to point out that staff can't enforce the rules and the police are too busy. It's not just small shops that face this problem and whilst it's not good we all have to do what's best to protect ourselves. In this situation, maybe chat to the owners and explain your concerns and highlight that you don't feel comfortable. Remember they are a small business who have over the past year supported the local community by providing an essential service during a global pandemic and managed to keep us all in essentials like toilet rolls, so best to discuss directly rather than going down the reporting route IMHO. Edited to include the link to the twitter feed

sjsl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Agree KK, the problem with the suggestion of > applying the rules with more authority, there just > aren't the resources/manpower... if there were > more community policeman it would help but they > aint there. You can't expect stallholders etc to > enforce the rules. But you could reasonably expect the appointed market officers in the council to enforce the rules or install barriers and one way systems to assist people being able to follow the rules

Playing the devils advocate for a moment Should it be closed or should the current rules be applied with more authority to control / enforce numbers, social distancing and mask wearing ?

BrandNewGuy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Spartacus, I think it means that if you don't have > a garden waste subscription, you can still get it > picked up for free as long as you email them with > your details... otherwise it won't get picked up. If that's the case, and I'm not doubting it, the council needs to clarify it on the information it puts out otherwise confusion will reign and tree abandonment issues will be the chaotic result.

Penguin , just to add context , according to the BBC "Every adult will be offered a coronavirus vaccine by Autumn, Matt Hancock says" Whilst the isolation issue and knock on effects are recognised, young people socialising because they don't like staying in * and then potentially going home to carry undetected infection to their parents / vulnerable family members also needs to be considered in the equation and RIsk factors of going out unnecessarily to things like the burger van at a market. * a few short months / years ago parents complained that their kids didn't go out and socialise as they were online or playing video games, oh the irony of now being told they like to go out to socialise....

snathani Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I wonder how many people here saying the market > should be closed are people who disliked having > the market there anyway. And I wonder how many > people ill in hospital now are there because > having nine months of "stay at home" and cancelled > operations is really bad for our health, but > that's another argument. And as well as what KK said above, if you have been into kings, or know people who work there, you would realise that as well as normal winter pressures, and some admissions caused by delays to treatments over the past year, the vast majority of hospital beds are taken up with Covid patients. ICU staff are supposed to be dedicated to a single patient or two at the max depending on severity of their clinical needs, yet at the moment one nurse in ICU is on average looking after 3 or 4 patients at a time. That's a hell of an ask for someone on a 12 hour shift pattern and we can all help them by social distancing, wearing masks and only going out for truly essential reasons (toilet roll buying for example) The impact of the delays in treatment will become truly apparent when this wave is over so to reduce that issue as much as you personally can, follow the blinking rules, no matter how much it incontinences you because you can't get a portion of street food.

I'm confused The statement "if you have a food and garden waste collection, real Christmas trees can be collected as part of your garden waste subscription collection" implies you need to have paid the annual fee for garden waste to be removed. Like a lot of people, what if you haven't and only have food waste collected, will you need to book a collection or will your tree be picked up regardless ? It's a bit vague and maybe a local councillor can advise !