Tony.London Suburbs

KalamityKel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > IS this another "hona I love you thread"? :-| Hopefully, you can't have enough of them imdo....

Mick Mac Wrote: (and I had backed > Chelsea on Betfair and doubled up when they went > behind - so now I am a Drogba fan:)) Wasn't "5.2" by any chance? Probably me that laid you.:))....laid Arsenal (small) at the same time but "got out" by laying the draw at "2.02" and at "1.52" so was lucky as I didn't fancy Chelsea b4 the match, at particularly at 0/1...(!)

Keef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But surely if they're nice, they'll just let you > live in paradise if you're nice... Well that's > what I'm hoping anyway. Mick Mac: An eternal invitation to Celtic Park. It doesn't get any better M8:)

When was your last perfect day in this Country? Obviously no-one has had any here.

daizie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I really want to know, what is the answer? To life daiz?....its as deep as the Oceon M8 and as long as a piece of string....all I know is that I have agreedwith everyone on here, as I have made a vow to be more agreeable in the future....

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I wasn't joking about Russell Brand.. He's a fine > example of the top talent we're still producing. ...and I was joking about John-Boy, HH, L'eclair and Russell's little Sister, Jo...??(6)B)

Keef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > F*ck me, you're both doing my head in. shut it you > pair of sl@gs! Leave my M8 Sean alone, you slagggggggggggggggggggg

The way Johnny Vegas says "Monkey"..worth the Licence Fee alone...

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Russell Brand.. Thats my point "Bob"..the list is endless these days...oh! and Jenny Eclair and Jo-Jo Brand. Listen to that pair and your sides might, just, split thru' laughter....:-S

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm not trying to take you anywhere Tony - you do > like to "tease" a little sometimes. You are right M8:))....and you're a Geezer....imagine the teasing you would get if you were a Lady who I was attracted to.....Shoot! I DO miss Office Life, sometimes..

We are still producing talent though...Harry Hills, Johnny Vegas...laugh? I never started...

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > oh all right then, I'm being grumpy... hands up.. > you got me etc etc Hate to say this Sean, as I like you, but I suspect (hopefully wrongly) that you are being more than grumpy and trying to take me to a place where I might be "Disciplined" (Ooh! Matron!) if I give the "wrong" answer, if you get my drift... ...

However if you do want my "tuppence worth" I strongly suspect that most Families will move away from Inner London, to give their children a better start in life, as "they" perceive it. I think most people will come to the conclusion, who are in a position to be mobile, that London is fine for the single life but not so great for raising a Family. Certainly in conversations with Ex-Londoners, both in The Suburbs and in The CountrySIDE, I hear that over and over...

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > you brought up the colour thing, not me. And you > gave the impression that you had seen the future > and you know what colour it is. So don't go all > coy on us now... > > Either you know and won't tell us or you don't > know and it MIGHT be orange! TLS: "I've seen the future Brendan and though I don't know which colour it is".... I've examined that comment from EVERY angle (even from under my computer desk) and whichever angle I view that statement from it seems to suggest that I do nae noooahh..( fingers crossed I don't get in trouble for impersonating a Geordie when I'm clearly not one...

and there'S me agreeing with you Sean, how grumpy would you be if I DISagreed with you M8....cor blimey..

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So go on then Tone, spell it out - WHAT colour is > the future? "Colour" "Colour" you are beginning to sound like Admin...:)) p.s I thought I made a point of saying that I did NOT know but perhaps I did not empthasize it enough...but as a guess,as you did ask, ummmmm...sort of, well, kind of, you know, like a,,,Nah! I can't really describe my "vision"..I did try Sean.:-$

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Why is it at this point I feel like referencing > the Wire... > > Surely the point is that yes anyone can say "well > i was poor and I made it out" but at a societal > level we know that the odds increase dramatically > against that happening. Some people will make it > out but mathematically the systems in place mean > that it's effectively a quota > > I don't want to be too bleeding heart about it and > nor do I want to excuse any criminal behaviour - > but if we are talking about root causes.. EXACTLY Sean! Some Guys are given little chance in life and the cardsare stacked against them so is it any wonder so many resort to foul play when life has been "foul" to them from the moment they left the Womb?:(

I've seen the future Brendan and though I don't know which colour it is, I DO know its NOT "Orange" M8..... If it is Orange then call me Hertz Van Rental... Like the Dutch/Orange connection-Ed.

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So clean up the estates. They HAVE been cleaned up Brendan! Peckham, for example, is a much more pleasing and aethsetically better place than the old Peckham of The 1970's/1980's Five notorious Estates...some/most of them have been knocked down, Thank Heavens....

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Diddums. So daddy wasn?t around. They still get > the same access to education, healthcare and > housing as millions of other kids in the same > situations who manage to become functional members > of society. > > If the police stop criminality from being an > option kids will have to find other routes. But Brendan some of these Guys are brought up on rough Estates where they are surrounded by Criminals displaying their "swag" and ill-gotten gains and seeing how easy it is these days for the "Crims" surely we, as a Society. can not blame them for taking something that is almost being handed to them with little meaningful deterrents.... We do not know the trauma these poor Guys went thru' without suitable guidance...

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Stopped at customs.. most inconvenient. > > Did they make you empty your bag? Well thats killed the convo. "Bob"..tooesoteric for me Man..

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ..(do ya wanna description of what> they look like Tone?? Then you can keep an eye out > for them!) - I hope your Gammy Leg is not making you more irritatable Seany:))...and I hope it gets better as soon as, for all our sakes...;-) I'm coming round to the view that not only "descriptions" should NOT be given but people should not even mention. let alone report crimes...if only I was "poor" and "18" and "unemployable" and "criminally minded" what a Haven London would be...sigh Sadly for me I'm none of these things...well I am a bit strapped for cash, as it happens, but you get the point. In any event after over 500,000 Miles driving since 1980 (mostly in London ) I have built up a very vivid picture of who to be aware of on the roads and it ain't bespectacled Middle Aged Ladies on their way to the job as Librarian at Spa Road in Bermondsey for Southwark Council...:))

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tony.London Suburbs Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > ....Did I, ever, tell you about the time I > visited > > my M8 Steve in Haywards Heath and his Sister > > wanted me to discover the delights of "Country > > Customs" which involved sharing her bed > > No, but I have a sneaking suspicion you're about > to.. If you insist Bobster...Stivvi Marble was bigger than me and so thats one Country Custom I had to forego...

This "mess" is here to stay Guys, the overwhelming majority of kids in Gangs join up to feel they are in a protective Family, as the overwhelming majority have little contact with any Father Figure and Mum is left to bring the Family up on her own, usually, while holding down 2 jobs as well. So the hard-pushed Mother is often absent, thru' no fault of her own, as well. There's often few Male Teachers in their formative years, as well to exarcerbate the situation. Once these kids join Gangs there are "territorial" or "post-code" problems. Add to that the ultra-competitive workplace and a desire to think its "cool" NOT to study hard in the case of most Gang Members and there chances of getting a "normal" job are severely limited. However these same Guys are bombarded with daily images of the delights that money can bring so they desire money and lots of it, but how to get it??? There's one clear solution to their problems and its not what any of us want to hear but its the harsh reality of life, both now, and, most certainly, in the future. I would heavily suspect that most criminally minded Guys will find the sentences they receive as being lightweight so again there's no deterrent and add to that the lack of a desire for people to get involved (even when they are victims themselves!) and its "Game On" for The Crims....and as its made so easy for them, canyou seriously blame them for accepting our gifts? To add to the problem I know from many conversations with some "ne'er do-wells" as The Dogs and at Football that they will target people who they believe are least resistant and areas that they believe are least resistant.

Can someone PLEASE answer me this question. Why are the "Pro" 20 MPH Limit Guys not requsting or insisting on a 10 MPH Limit? Surely that will be safer still?