All Bar One is looking for ED home/Franklins organics in LL (Lounged)

[Barry Rhode]

I really don't like the idea of an AB1 in the area, mainly because I don't want the area to attract under-age and/or aggressive binge drinkers

Don't get ne wrong, I too am a binge drinker but am neither under-age or aggressive

I love this area and I'd hate to see it's charm, variety and saftey compromised because some faceless corporations seek to exploit ED disposable income

I hope people continue to support their local watering holes and food retailers

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[Keef]

Agree with what you say there, but to be honest, there are plenty of binge drinkers and trouble makers in ED already. For one example look at the poor guy who got the crap beaten out of him on LL just a couple of weeks back.

[MadWorld74]

Stope being so f*cking poliete all of you. East Dulwich has turned so much in the last year athat like costal British resorts, we can proudly twin ourselves with Le Northcote Road.

[SeanMacGabhann]

MW74

You're point will carry more weight when your spill-ung is sorted!

I don't agree that LL has got THAT bad, but I know what you mean. But adding an AB1 is so far from solving the problem...

[monica]

All bar one is a star on a tv series called street wars,its very good it shows the lives of the average 20-30year old on a night out, and after having 30 pints a bacardi breezer and a grope with the local bike,they all gang up for a punch up. So if you want a good night of entertainment with a strong possibility of finishing up at the police or the hospital go to all bar one,the place to be seen in ,arrested and punched for no reason at all.

[Keef]

I seriously don't think you can blame the All bar one itself for that. The area in which it's based has a lot to do with it. There are plenty of places where 20-30 somethings can drink far too much and have a fight if they so chose to. I don't think the introduction of an All bar one will suddenly mean a whole new breed of thug flooding in to ED for a ruck! It would be more liely to be full of the estate agent types.

And Madworld74, what???

[Mark]

If there was an All Bar One, wouldn't that mean that all the other pubs in the area would be free of the All Bar One "type"?

[mockney piers]

Agree with Keef, it's much more to do with the area.

I think the AB1 type tends to be relative newcomers to london who are still impressed with that sort of thing, I was no different at 21, but by my mid twenties I was a tad more discerning.

By my mid thirties I'm just a plain old snob ;-)

[Asset]

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote:

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> Anyone recall the original Franklin's, and the

> woman (I presume Ms Franklin) who ran it?

>

> I purchased a looking glass from the original gaff

> in Camberwell - still on my wall.

I used to go there regularly for Sunday lunch after a full-on night out around 89/90

[Mark]

I asked Mitchells and Butler (who own All Bar One) if there were any plans afoot to open an All Bar One in East Dulwich, i was told:

"I've just spoken to the director of All Bar One who tells me that there's no current plans."

I hear Heathrow Terminal 6 is going to use Lordship Lane as its main runway. Discuss.

[mockney piers]

Do you smell the charred embers of a flame too?

[barrymarshall]

Mark Wrote:

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> I asked Mitchells and Butler (who own All Bar One)

> if there were any plans afoot to open an All Bar

> One in East Dulwich, i was told:

>

> "I've just spoken to the director of All Bar One

> who tells me that there's no current plans."

Where the f- do these rumours come from then?

Seriously, who "invents" them?

[Keef]

Well Quaywe started the thread, and didn't take part once after that, so I guess he sat back and enjoyed the show.

Just for that, I hope chain stores open either side of your house ;-)

[Andyng]

username Quaywe me thinks

[Frisco]

"I used to go there regularly for Sunday lunch after a full-on night out around 89/90"

Yes, that's about the time I used to go there too.

[Quaywe]

Maybe my source isn't that reliable after all then. Or maybe everyone's just in denial kind of like football players are before they actually sign the big contract. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

By the way - did you know there's plans to open a needle exchange at the DMC in Crystal Palace Road?! ;-)

[mockney piers]

LOL cheeky monkey

[benjaminty]

I very much doubt the owners of All Bar One would tell anyone that called them up to confirm or denie a potential business opportunity of theirs. But I could be wrong.

I think that this thread has missed one important point here ..and that is that ABO may be looking to open a site BUT... they may not open it as an ABO. ABO actually own the White Hart in Palace and the Phoenix in Denmark Hill station and many others without the ABO branding and associated culture.

Would have thought one such establishment might work on LL?

[Mark]

very true bejanminty, but the original post did say that All Bar One are looking for site here. Mitchells and Butler (who also have the Plough and the Crown & Greyhound) may be looking to open a Browns or an O'Neils but I didn't ask them that.

[mockney piers]

Having debranded the phoenix from an O'Neill's, I can't see them going down that route again in this area.

[downsouth]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> LOL cheeky monkey

precis monkey

[Keef]

benjaminty Wrote:

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> I think that this thread has missed one important point here ..and that is that ABO may be looking to open a site BUT... they may not open it as an ABO. ABO actually own the White Hart in Palace and the Phoenix in Denmark Hill station and many

others without the ABO branding and associated culture.

White Hart in Palace is really nice actually.

[WickedStepmother]

I second that. Friends of ours live just around the corner from the White Hart and it's our regular meeting place. Bags of character and, interestingly, seems to attract people from both the 'indigenous' Crystal Palace population and 'newcomers'.

[MitchK]

Can't believe people whinge about these things. It is called PROGRESS. Good for the area and good for property prices. Would they rather the empty tire shop stayed there with netting all over it? All Bar One would be fine with me, but organic grocers is fine too. The next thing I would do is to demolish Somerfield or Iceland or both and put Waitrose or M&S in there. Doubt that place will be an All Bar One though - too small and Lordship Lane is pretty quiet at night.

[Louisa]

Sounds great MitchK, some pretentious shops for some pretentious shoppers to make them feel good about themselves. Dont you just love progress!