bakery?

[ziggy]

Can anyone confirm the rumour that the old fried chicken place by Moxons is to be a bakers? Hope so.

[Michael Palaeologus]

Something classy - like Greggs the Bakers for instance?

[MadWorld74]

an atrisian bakery please, like Flour Power Bakery.....

[fish]

About time!

[Ant]

Now all we need is a candlestick maker and we're sorted!

Did that other baker, further up towards the roundabout, close down?

[SteveT]

I consider something classy as Paul's Covent garden. There six seed flutes are yummy. The price at ?1.30 though is enough to choke a horse.

[Louisa]

Why do we need all these poncy versions of everything? A bakers - bread and cakes maybe some pasties and sarnies.. Paul's? Good grief, what a snob hole this area is turning out to be! There is nothing wrong with the bakers we have, very friendly staff, good bread and oh yes they sell sausage rolls, I can see the snobby folk squirming at the thought as I type lol

Louisa.

[MitchK]

I really hope we don't get a Paul in Lordship Lane, the last thing the area needs is quality shops. What we need are more fried chicken shops and launderettes with bulldog faced women standing outside smoking a Rothmans.

[Crepe Suzette]

Bought some salmon at Moxon's (or is it a plural - Moxons??) today and there was a stand in front of the shop with a girl selling bread from the bakery-to-be, called Luca's. She gave me a flyer that said they'll open in early 2008 - they have a site www.lucasbakery.com

First line of the flyer: "family owned and run we will bake organic hand-made breads, cakes and patisserie from our shop, till then we will be selling from outside Moxon's".

[EDOldie]

I've been saying we need a master bakers for ages. Fit in very well. Ayres at Nunhead used to be very good but not so today. Anything has to be better than S*insburys ghastly bread.

[bob]

Went there to day asked the price of a loaf ?4.50 their having a laugh.

Bob S

[kford]

We need a quality baker badly. Not an expensive one, a quality one. The other baker in LL is OK, but just erring on the Greggs side in variety. And there's nothing snobby or poncy about wanting lovely fresh and interesting bread and cakes, by the way; that's a silly class-ridden attitude that belongs in another era.

[SimonM]

Well there's an excellent baker in Herne Hill.....and *lots* of outlets on LL allegedly selling either organic or "quality" bread - EDD, the Patisserie, the Cheeseblock, Chandelier, Budgens, Somerfields, Badger Bakery etc etc

[macroban]

> that's a silly class-ridden attitude that belongs in another era.

Not for the pensioner who is unlikely to be able to afford more than 5% of her pension on a single loaf of bread.

[bob]

I'm with you macroban

Bob S

[kford]

Er, read my message again - I said 'not an expensive one, a quality one'. I too hate paying more than a quid for a loaf.

[Sue]

There's good bread at the stall in North Cross Road market ....

[luddite]

im not being funny but le chandelier make delicicous bread {pricey ish } and the east dulwich deli also own a bakery in the old kent road ......their bread is seriously good especially the hazel nut and raisin AND the new bakers to be is owned by none other than 'andreas' the greek style shop/deli at t'other end of LL

i want a greggs !!!! like louisa i feel we need a balance and are any of you aware that sadly every single kennedys sausage shop in south east london is closing in december

six jammy doughnuts for 1.30 hooray

[Frisco]

"and are any of you aware that sadly every single kennedys sausage shop in south east london is closing in december"

I wasn't aware of that, but the story is here: http://www.croydonguardian.co.uk/news/heritage/display.var.1710697.0.time_to_bow_out_for_ye_olde_sausage_shop.php

It's sad, but it's maybe a result of them not moving and changing with the times. Whatever some may say about people wanting poncy versions of everything, the fact is that most people's aspirations, shopping habits, eating patterns and even, for some at least, dietary awareness have changed since the 1950s, but I doubt that what's on offer in Kennedys has.

I agree that we do need a good and reasonably priced bakery on LL, but it would be preferable if the current ones saw the gap in the market and provided what is wanted before someone else with the skill and entrepreneurial know-how steps in and does it anyway. Good bread doesn't have to be 'poncey' or expensive but it also doesn't have to be the plastic Wonderloaf variety that some people here seem to crave and think we should all want to eat.

[kford]

Frisco is right.

And we absolutely do not need a Gregg's though. They're the Starbucks/Subway/MacDonalds of bakers. And if you knew what went into their two-for-a-pound sausage rolls... yuk.

[*Bob*]

The Kennedy's thing (especially reading the article) irritates me. They've got an established brand, quality stock, a solid existing customer base and an increasing desire for such independent local shops all over London. But basically the management can't be arsed to get off their backsides and take positive action to reboot the business. Their answer seems to be to keep putting the sausages out in the window with a shrug whilst their sales decline year by year and saying 'what can we do?' It's very sad for the staff. If they've had enough and want to call it a day then fair enough then they might as well just be up-front and say so.

How many times have I walked past the other bakery on LL, with its forlorn titbits sprinkling with hundreds and thousands gracing the window. Every time I go past it I get a flashback to my home town in the Midlands - circa 1981. So now, instead of having one decent, reasonably-priced bakery with a few shops also selling speciality bread, we'll get a flashy one selling posh bread for the few.

Anyway, we'll be buying a breadmaker, so let me tell you where I am on this.. I'm OUT

[Nero]

Agree with Bob. Retro lardy crap is not good. Decent stuff, baked honestly with a nod to the present, is better than that and better than overpriced foreign-sounding nonsense. I yearn for good sense and am getting really peed off and a tad depressed by the ponciness on offer in our area. It's like a more cultured repeat of the 80s - price it high, whack in the word 'organic' or 'natural' and it'll fly off the shelves. I'm not as antediluvian as Louisa, but I do find the facility with which people lose their dosh is dispiriting. Decent stuff can be British and adventurous; why do we have to have ciabattas and poilane (sp?) and the like? Nero

[Louisa]

I have sent numerous letters to Kennedy ltd since I became aware of the closure, urging them to relocate to ED just to see if they could struggle on with just the one shop. I am very hopeful that if the business came to ED and perhaps expanded it's variety and offered a few organic products it would make a bomb. I have yet to receive any response which I find very sad. How can they watch a 130 year old business just pass into history without even trying to relocate or change the product line. I am pleading with you Chris Kennedy to keep just one shop open, I will miss not being able to come to your shop for my handmade christmas pudding which I have done year on year for so long, and the wonderful chipolatas to go with my Goose.

Louisa.

[*Bob*]

A bit of business foresight is the reason why William Rose is cleaning up and Kennedy's is shutting down.

I just think they've missed their chances - and now they've had enough.

[Muttley]

I find it bizarre that there's all this discussion of bakeries in East Dulwich without mentioning the one old-fashioned high street bakery that is right in the prime area of LL - Hirst & Sons. Almost as if it's invisible. What's wrong with it? Doesn't anyone shop there?

By the way, there used to be 3 or 4 bakeries - Place Bakeries - up the Lane, and one by one they shut, largely the Sainsbury's factor I think.