Joggers, not keeping a asfe distance

[firth]

Giving my dot a quick walk in Warwick gardens last night I had 4 joggers running up behind me and passing far too closely all puffing and panting. Can you do me a favour and keep your F-----g distance.

[ab29]

I was thinking the same. Also, pavements are for pedestrians so if people are jogging they need to be careful not to trample everyone who is simply trying to walk there.

[Langdale]

I agree. When I was out walking at 7.15 am yesterday in Peckham Rye, a jogger ran up behind me and coughed within a metre of my back. I jumped out of the way. He didn't cover his mouth and showed total disrespect for me. Today I went out earlier but avoided the park and kept to the roads so that I could step into the middle of the road. Lots of joggers just not bothering to step off paths for others. Very selfish and this kind of attitude will soon shut down exercising outside.

[KidKruger]

Langdale, he may have been using the cough to get you out of the way.

I've posted this on the Dulwich park thread already a couple of times.

I've done a lot of running. I know what a bind it is to have to stop/start/change direction around obstacles whether they be parked cars, mums with prams, small crowds and individuals - when you're tired or don't want your efforts disrupted.

But there's no God-given right to just plough on through / past people, especially now of all times !

If you can't get safely past people (6ft distance), then WAIT until the opportunity to do do arises.

It won't kill you. But you may be killing someone else down the line.

[jimlad48]

I'm a regular runner and have tried to get onto the road whereever it is safe to do so. Was not impressed atthe runner this morning who was coming towards me, and told me to fuck off when I called out 'social distancing' as she passed with less than 30cm gap.

[first mate]

This is exactly the same attitude that causes dangerous driving in cars, dangerous driving on bicycles and now dangerous behaviour by joggers. It is a kind of tunnel vision that puts the ?perpetrator?s? need to achieve whatever goal they have in their sights foremost and screw anyone in their way.

[Milan05]

I am sad to say I have seen quite a good deal of runners spitting too - never been impressed with that but now unbelievable...unimaginable mindset to do this.

[KidKruger]

To be fair (and add balance), in another park today runners were mainly being very careful and keeping decent distances, or even stopping/waiting or reversing to continue along other paths.

It was impressive and a lot more relaxing.

The one lady who brushed past me from behind with no warning though, was a selfish fool.

[Angelina]

People are selfish and entitled. Watch how it changes over the coming weeks, when this sinks in.

They are probably novices and can't manage to move sideways

[Spartacus]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> The one lady who brushed past me from behind with

> no warning though, was a selfish fool.

"Don't be giving me no jogger jiggle FOOL"

[Ruskin]

I ran through DP yesterday at lunchtime and made a huge effort to avoid people (I'm more often through there early mornings and so uncomfortable among others). It is true that new runners may find it harder to swerve/balance to avoid others though that's not an excuse.

But in HH a little later the person who marched straight towards me to almost pass within inches, had I not stepped into the road was especially irritating.

Some have rubbish spacial awareness anyway, and will never get it.

[KidKruger]

haha - I'll try that line later in the park next time !

Spartacus Wrote:

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> "Don't be giving me no jogger jiggle FOOL"

[Soylent Green]

I too am really not enjoying all the runners puffing passed me at too close a distance. It is quite scary. I hope the rain returns soon, so we dog walkers can have the wet, sodden parks to ourselves again!

[peckman01]

There will always be a few who ruin it for the many. Its not just the runners who are the guilty ones. The amount of pedestrians that don't seem bothered by it is also an issue. Walking past you like nothing is happening, standing right next to you at traffic lights...there are far more walkers than runners out!

[redjam]

It works both ways - I went for a run on Sunday, scrupulously swerving into the road if someone was coming the other way on the pavement, running on the grass once I was in the park to keep a safe distance from people walking. Occasionally I'd be on a narrow section and would be amazed to see two or three people ambling towards me taking up the whole path, making no effort to move across. I'd have to stop dead and practically fling myself into a bush to let them stroll past. That said, there were lots of sensible people too and most people seemed to be keeping an eye out for each other. So it's wrong (and unhelpful) to blanket-blame whole groups of people.

Also, before we all lose our minds, do remember it's actually a very small risk if someone is whizzing past you at speed - see here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/coronavirus-outdoor-etiquette-no-spitting-and-keep-your-distance

Though obviously, we should all keep a safe distance at this time for peace of mind and common civility.

[Nandalf the Grey]

Joggers! You are allowed to run on to the grass whilst passing people don't you know! In Peckham Rye some are literally running up behind people so close!

[holloway]

I think those running too close to other people may well be rookie-joggers. I've noticed an increase amount of joggers lately, perhaps due to the fact that there isn't much else to do when the sun is out.

[Ontherun]

I've just walked my dog round Brockwell Park earlier and could not believe how many runners were both plodding and pelting past (i.e. not new runners) huffing and puffing without any regard to keeping their distance. I was dodging on and off the path to try and get out of the way as they just ploughed on through. However there were also lots of parents and kids (mainly primary school-ish age) ambling or cycling along together who were also absolutely not heeding the advice to stay clear of other people.

[fishbiscuits]

I was out running this evening, and stepped into the road whenever passing someone.

But what I would say is that if a runner/jogger and a walker are heading towards each other, it's both of your responsibility to make space. Not JUST the runner!!

[KidKruger]

Agreed, not JUST the runner.

However, the runner is the one approaching the (soon-to-be) shared space at speed, knowing what his/her own 'plan' is regarding distancing in that specific situation and, presumably, thinking quickly a way to avoid the chore of having to slow down.

The walker does not know what the runner's plans are (often when walking you're not even aware of a runner until they've gone past, sometimes very close).

The walker is relatively static and easier to predict (to a runner).

So in such situations where distancing is not adhered to it's often the runner in control because they're effectively dominating the situation through their speed and unpredictability, putting the onus on the walker to suddenly jump out of the way to maintain distance, or try and anticipate what the runner intends - this is pretty obvious I hope.

So it takes two to tango, as they say, but it seems fair to expect the faster party to lead with the distancing indications / behaviour.

A walker is effectively a sitting duck.

As I've said previously, most runners I've encountered have been most reasonable, probably up to 8/10.

[fishbiscuits]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> So it takes two to tango, as they say, but it

> seems fair to expect the faster party to lead with

> the distancing indications / behaviour.

Agreed... which is why I take the initiative and clearly step into the road (after checking over my shoulder for traffic). But perhaps it would be a nice touch if the walker moved a little to the inside of the pavement too!! (some do, of course...)

[gromit316]

I don't like the runners who come from behind you, you can't hear them and suddenly they are running right passed your shoulder, I don't understand why they would run on busy high streets.

[Henry_17]

I now always make sure to have a broom stick strapped horizontally to each should when walking in the Park. It?s the only way people will respect the required distance.

[Zig-Zag]

Henry_17 Wrote:

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> I now always make sure to have a broom stick

> strapped horizontally to each should when walking

> in the Park. It?s the only way people will respect

> the required distance.

This smart dog has already thought of that tactic....

[doody]

I was walking in Dulwich park late afternoon today, and, unfortunately,the runners- and some walking groups- I saw were either approaching people closely from behind or being clearly unwilling to deviate from their trajectory.Despite the fact I stopped walking,one runner continued to cut across a wide and otherwise empty path directly towards me. Thank you to the several runners on this forum who have shown they are doing their best to comply with the distance advice.Your sense is truly appreciated, I just wish the message would finally get through to what seems to be the majority of runners.