honk Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 There are something like 75,000 empty houses in London, something like 30,000 of those long term, with demand for housing outstripping that figure. The fault here lies with the owner leaving it empty long enough to show up on potential occupant's radar. As it's a civil offence you have to wait for the courts and bureaucracy rather than the police. and if they've been careful 'criminal damage' is hard to prove without the owner present. So you'll have to wait for the courts ; ) I like the fear of squatters burgling houses on the same street though. Because that would be clever. I also don't think you can tar them all with the same brush - many of them are decent people. Though I guess that on this forum due to them not sharing your values (imported Home Counties values, values not necessarily indigenous to the area) they are automatically 'scum'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 This Forum doesn't have any values. There is no "you", "we", "The Forum" or anything else. There's only the diverse opinions of the various and varying scumbags, idiots and malcontents that post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 And reprobates. You forgot reprobates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorky Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Drive them out- lets get a mob sorted out - blazing torches made from last weekends Guardian magazine, Molotovs fashioned from astisan olive oil bottles with tapers made from shredded Melanie Phillips daily mail so called articless out! out! out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 "What do we want?" "Imported values, not necessarily indigenous to the area""When do we want them?" "Just as soon as the due process of the civil law allows" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Yes Ted, apologies, for some reason I thought you were Seaan - hangover, euphoria at the Hammers, feeling I hadn't had a good old tear up with sean for a while.......so, are you a Yuppie breadhead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Sorry, got to run. Got an eleven o'clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegalEagle-ish Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Agree with Honk - I was a squatter in the 80's and am a fine upstanding citizen now.Also re: crminal damage - they have to catch you at it or how do they know if it was the person squatting who did it, or someone else before the said squatter discoveed the empty and accessable property? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Cancelled. Apparently they left a message on my Motorola but because it's not 1987 any more I didn't pick it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 they have to catch you at it or how do they know if it was the person squatting who did itIs this about the daisies again? I suppose there are analysis techniques if you really wanted to pin down the culprit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honk Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Berlin wouldn't be half the city it is if it wasn't for squatters. I think it's 'criminal' for property to be left empty in a city with such an acute housing shortage - by squatting in areas such as ED it helps raise awareness of the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorky Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 honk Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Berlin wouldn't be half the city it is if it> wasn't for squatters. > > I think it's 'criminal' for property to be left> empty in a city with such an acute housing> shortage - by squatting in areas such as ED it> helps raise awareness of the issue.communist!OUT! OUT! OUT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I rather agree with honk - it may be one good feature of the descending house prices that developers no longer buy houses and leave them empty to accrue value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macroban Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 My memory of squatters during c1972-c1979 when there was last a significant number of squatters in East Dulwich is that they either chose large and nice private properties or council flats. Small private terrace and semi-detached properties were pretty much ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asset Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I squatted in the eighties too. For quite a long time, nearly two years. I did quite a lot of work on the property to improve it whilst living there and never burgled my neighbours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveT Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Asset dear you are not a typical example of the squatters I have known who would trash a place and then move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 But she is a typical example of squatters you have not known who would not trash a place and then move on. Dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Let's just agree that some squatters are decent, respectful people who are simply taking advantage of unused housing. While others cause damage, nuisance and wreck livelihoods. As someone pointed out, you can't tar them all with the same brush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony.London Suburbs Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Jeremy Wrote:As someone pointed out, you can't tar them all with the same brush.So very, very true!I was saying that very same thing 3 nights ago when watching the Documentary about Britain's most notorious Tea-Leaves "The Johnson Family-Family Motto: "If you go after one "Johnson" you will have all The "Johnsons" to contend with" who were found in their Caravans discussing their ?30 Million hauls from Stately Homes/Post Offices/Banks etc....Not "all" Travellers have stolen ?30 Mill. so do NOT generalise, please.(6) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegalEagle-ish Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Tony is trying to start a fight - naughty, naughty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulmum Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Some of the indie/arty crowd from Inside 72 used to squat next door to me, adding a touch of colour to my grey yuppie world. Used to invite us round for wild sub-Doherty/Moss style parties, but they eventually got my goat when they complained about our planting in the garden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadwolf Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I agree that if a building is uninhabited and some squatters move in and actually take care of the place then you should leave them to it but if the Burbery brigade move in then reach for the 12 bore. About 3 years ago I was on the job demolishing Abford house theatre (the site has been replaced with a huge building site immediatly visible when you leave Victoria train station) and we had a group of crack heads move in and the mess they left was very disturbing. Claxon horns did the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony.London Suburbs Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 LegalEagle-ish Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Tony is trying to start a fight - naughty,> naughty.Moi?:-$....nah! I was just saying like.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Jeremy Wrote:------------------------------------------------------- you can't tar them all with the same brush.Well it depends on how many of them there are, how big your brush is and what type of feathers you plan on using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Squatters should be shot. If they gained entry into my house whilst I was sunning it in Spain, i'd not hesitate to pay a bunch of 'door staff' a backhander to get them forcefully removed.Louisa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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